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Old 10-12-2017, 08:59 PM
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It sure would be odd for CEO Blume to say the opposite publicly on stage during a Q&A if it weren’t so, but then again, he could have been misinformed or PAG could have changed course for one reason or another.

If if it turns out that the next Spyder is just a derivative of the 718 4-banger or even a detuned 3.0 turbo 6 from the C2 or C2S, then Porsche will have made the 981 an instant classic, and I’ll be even happier that I just bought one earlier this week.
Old 10-12-2017, 09:34 PM
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I find it comical how many threads/posts of people that are in denial that the Spyder will be Naturally Aspirated. Oh well. The Spyder and Cayman equivalent (981 GT4 and 987.2 R) have always been paired.
Old 10-12-2017, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 63A 981510
I find it comical how many threads/posts of people that are in denial that the Spyder will be Naturally Aspirated. Oh well. The Spyder and Cayman equivalent (981 GT4 and 987.2 R) have always been paired.
Agreed. Different Raison D'etre but still the same baseline....that has not changed in two model years and I doubt it will going forward. Why would Porsche mess with a formula that works.
Old 10-12-2017, 10:03 PM
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Larger exhaust outlets for the 4l flat 6.....
Old 10-12-2017, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 63A 981510
I find it comical how many threads/posts of people that are in denial that the Spyder will be Naturally Aspirated. Oh well.
+1

But would absolutely LOVE to be 100% dead wrong on NA.
Old 10-13-2017, 11:46 AM
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Likely reasons for the pipe reconfiguration:
- To accommodate 4.0 NA, as someone already pointed out.
- Make room for the diffuser. If you compare against the pictures of 982 S, the prototype has substantial pieces of trim around the pipes.

In fact, the fact that the exhaust pipes are reconfigured, as compared to rest of the 982 models, clearly indicate that this is NA!
Old 10-13-2017, 12:06 PM
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The pipes look cool as does the new rear diffuser, I'm going to wager it's a NA six, after all the premium on the price and nature of the vehicle demands it.
Old 10-13-2017, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by the_rider
Likely reasons for the pipe reconfiguration:
- To accommodate 4.0 NA, as someone already pointed out.
- Make room for the diffuser. If you compare against the pictures of 982 S, the prototype has substantial pieces of trim around the pipes.

In fact, the fact that the exhaust pipes are reconfigured, as compared to rest of the 982 models, clearly indicate that this is NA!
The rear end or diffuser and pipes could just be a cosmetic change....???
Old 10-13-2017, 06:05 PM
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Based on my observations, Porsche doesn't make such cosmetic changes without tangible benefits. For the most part, they follow 'form follows function'. There are always exceptions. Spyder and GT4 being low volume models, there may not be cost benefits to make such changes.

I would be inclined to believe that there is real down force advantages to gain from Spyder's diffuser. Since Spyder wouldn't have a substantial rear wing, as compared to GT4, an effective diffuser plays a vital role (in conjunction with front wing).
Old 10-13-2017, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by the_rider
Based on my observations, Porsche doesn't make such cosmetic changes without tangible benefits.
It's a test mule, that rear treatment could easily be camo. Do you think the dual exhaust on the Mission E test mule has any tangible benefits or will make it to production?
Old 10-13-2017, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by squid42
The exhaust might just be horizontal design integration with the other current cars.

While the Spyder isn't a GT car it has been treated like on by Porsche recently.

Holding up my hopes.
The 981 Spyder wasn't a creation from AP's GT team. It also didn't have the GT3 front suspension that the GT4 has. The only thing really similar between the 981 Spyder and the 981 GT4 is the engine which wasn't a GT engine.
Old 10-13-2017, 07:55 PM
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Few comments. Exhaust outlets say crap about NA or turbo, so zero evidence there. Spyder is not a GT car indeed, but neither is the GT4 (just a half-a$$ one), and both are basically the same, and will have the same engine. So whatever the Spyder has, it'll be in the GT4 as well; hopefully NA. We'll find out soon enough. The sound will immediately tell anybody who knows Porsches if it's H6NA or H4T. Hopefully somebody who heard it will confirm soon.
Old 10-13-2017, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by elp_jc
Few comments. Exhaust outlets say crap about NA or turbo, so zero evidence there. Spyder is not a GT car indeed, but neither is the GT4 (just a half-a$$ one), and both are basically the same, and will have the same engine. So whatever the Spyder has, it'll be in the GT4 as well; hopefully NA. We'll find out soon enough. The sound will immediately tell anybody who knows Porsches if it's H6NA or H4T. Hopefully somebody who heard it will confirm soon.
Why are some so sensitive regarding the Spyders GTness...
Old 10-14-2017, 04:09 AM
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http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-sho...ils-info-pics/

Looking back at the above article, My gut tells me they got it wrong. I think it’s a early Spyder mule not GTS. Why would they be testing a GTS with GT4 and Spyder wheels? They are much wider than any other standard 718/981 wheel (GTS included).
Old 10-14-2017, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BryanCO
Why are some so sensitive regarding the Spyders GTness...
I know... Pretty ridiculous... and I agree... the GT4 isn’t a true GT car either... more a parts bin special. Doesn’t mean it isn’t an amazing car though as is the Spyder.


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