Argon_

The sound a Subaru WRX makes is good. It isn't a lovely sound. The 718, if you straight pipe it, sounds like a WRX.

This begs the question, will the 718 get a flat 6? Even if it's just a base Carrera engine.

What do you guys think?

Archimedes

Supposedly it won't fit with the turbos.

And no, Porsche didn't go through all this trouble of reviving the 718 model designation, developing a turbo four and dealing with all the backlash only to switch right back to a six.

Argon_

I was thinking that the GTS had a slim chance of getting it. Hence the thread.

And as for the fitment. I call BS. A dude put a COYOTE engine in a cayman.

Hell, the car would sound better if powered by a turbo three. They could just cut the Turbo engine in half, so to speak. You could reuse the head, cams, turbo, header, pistons, rods, bearings, and other parts.

The resulting I3 would sound better than the B4, sip fuel, and make ~270 horsepower.

Archimedes

The turbo six is not going in the 718, GTS or otherwise.

skiahh

The GTS is just an options package with a small power boost. There's ZERO chance of a new engine in a 718 GTS. Likely in the GT4/Spyder when they come out, though.

n4v4nod

Bingo... and it will be Naturally Aspirated. Already confirmed from Porsche at this years Porsche Parade... heard it first hand... Thanks Eduardo!

Cysco

What I'm really curious about is how they handle the needed performance bump the Spyder.2/GT4.2 will require.

The bump from 981 GTS to 981 Spyder/GT4 was pretty significant. Now the 718S is knocking on the doorstep of those cars. If Porsche is going to make the new Spyder/GT4 as appealing as their predecessors were, they're going to have to get the HP increase into the 400+ range.

I'm not sure customers would bite if the new cars came with the same 385hp NA engine as before. If that's the case how does a 415-425hp NA 718 slot into the rest of the Porsche lineup?

Argon_

I'm sure enough customers would bite on sound alone, given that the GT4/Spyder were built in such small numbers.

guab

Porsche can easily up the power level to 400+ using the same motor. Otherwise, as others have suggested -- they may go the route of a de-tuned GT3 motor. I'm betting on a non-detuned 3.8 though. Honestly, as we have seen from the 2011/2012's, power isn't everything for the Spyder.

Archimedes

I think you'd find that many Spyder buyers would take that car with an NA 6 over the 718S, even if the Spyder only made 350 HP. I know that I would.

The next Spyder/GT4 will almost certainly get the 4.0 from the new GT3, detuned to around 400hp in the Spyder and say 420ish in the GT4. The buyer for the Spyder/GT4 is entirely different than the typical 718 buyer.

JCtx

I'd almost bet my house IF the GT4/Spyder come back with a NA H6, it'd be with the same 3.8 as before. After all, that same engine made 430 on GTS models, therefore Porsche could even use it for 2 more cycles, since 45HP would be quite a jump. But at least that engine is good for one more cycle, hence my 'bet'.

Archimedes

You mean the engine that's not in production anymore? You think they'll keep making an old engine for just two low volume models when they're already producing a better performing 4.0? Seems like that would be less likely.

erik_plus8

Ahhhh - that would almost certainly be my unicorn. Now, if I can get it with the Touring Package...

terbiumactivated

A GT3 motor in a spyder would be pretty crazy. I wonder how Porsche will respond if the new mid engine Vette starts eating into 911 sales? Will they pull the 911 RSR out and make several variants and finally put the engine where most of us think it should be?

http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorspo.../2018-911-rsr/

Argon_

They could drag and drop the Turbo S engine into the Cayman. That'd be a world beater.