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Old 08-10-2017, 01:26 PM
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Done some searching, nothing dead on point, so quick thread. I've found a Spyder I really like, price is nuts, has LWBs instead of my preferred sofas; I know I could swap with someone but at this price, would be nice to keep them, particularly with the deviated stitching.

I sat in the LWBs in 991 GT3RS a while back and they felt a little off in the upper back, slightly tight and ever so slightly more upright than I typically sit, but I'm guessing I could get used to that. I know the in/out issues, not real concerned about that.

What I am curious about is, how comfortable is the seat padding (bottom and back) particularly after a couple of hours. Is it like sitting on boards or is it reasonably comfy and supportive?

Also, I know it's a fixed back seat, but is there any adjustability of the seat up and down?
Old 08-10-2017, 01:47 PM
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LWB's are like wearing an Italian shoe. I was at first reticent about the lack of adjust ability but now I'm a big fanclub member.
Old 08-10-2017, 01:56 PM
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981/991 gen LWB or also called full bucket seats are power adjustable for height. DOT requirement as I understand it. There is not a recline adjustment. Comfort is an individual thing. I like them and no problem with 2 to 3 hour drive.
Old 08-10-2017, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by terbiumactivated
LWB's are like wearing an Italian shoe. I was at first reticent about the lack of adjust ability but now I'm a big fanclub member.
Yes. I was actually disappointed that full buckets / fixed back seats weren't an option when I ordered my car. I put 100k miles on a Sparco Evo2 in one of my previous vehicles. Daily driver, but a well-prepared autocross toy, and I never regretted making the change to a fixed racing seat. That car had a really stiff suspension and I drove it on terrible Michigan roads. As long as I remembered to take my wallet out of my pocket on longer drives it was plenty comfy. I made a 12 hour drive from Detroit, MI to Athens, GA in that seat without an issue. I imagine newer technology with memory foams and such being used in seats these days they are likely even more comfy than that Sparco seat was 10 years ago.

Every time I take my car to the race track I go home thinking about yanking the OE seats to install proper racing buckets.
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Seat padding is ok. Height adjustment is powered and works well. Recline is not an option. That is the biggest problem. I'm 6-5 and really struggle to get enjoyment out of these seats solely due to that reason.
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Plenty of sport seats available -LWB a must have.
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Originally Posted by -eztrader-
Seat padding is ok. Height adjustment is powered and works well. Recline is not an option. That is the biggest problem. I'm 6-5 and really struggle to get enjoyment out of these seats solely due to that reason.
I'm 6'1" and when I sat in them the angle didn't bother me, as I sit pretty upright typically. It felt just a very slight bit more upright than I have the 4way SS's set up in my Carrera. It did feel like the upper seat back was narrower than my 4ways though, and I didn't seem to sink into the seat backs as much. No way to tell if that's gonna bother me until I drive one for a while, which is not an option for me on this car.
Old 08-10-2017, 03:44 PM
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They are height adjustable.
These guys are coming out with a way to adjust the seat back angle:
https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/1006...iber-lwbs.html

For me, they are the most comfortable of the Porsche seats. I've spent over 6 hours in them with no issues. I prefer the Full Bucket Seats (918) to the Sport Bucket Seats (GT2). Smaller, thinner people seem to prefer the sport buckets.

I wouldn't want a GT car without them. If you don't like them, you can always trade with someone and end up with about $10k in your pocket.
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Dr. Bill, thanks for that link. Very interesting.

On the cost side, are you saying that it's possible/likely if I swapped with someone for sofas, I could net $10k? Are these seats that pricey?
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Ten g's is a lofty goal but certainly a good profit can be had for making that switch. I was inundated with offers when I was considering it, glad I never did it.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Dr. Bill, thanks for that link. Very interesting.

On the cost side, are you saying that it's possible/likely if I swapped with someone for sofas, I could net $10k? Are these seats that pricey?
Yes. So far, I do not believe they can even be ordered through parts. If they ever do become available, they will likely sell in the $15k price range, similar to the Carrera GT seats.

I know of only one confirmed trade. The cash difference was reported to be $10k. So that is possible. I would guess that at $8k you would have a line to sort through, but who knows.
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When adjusting the height, the tilt of the whole seat does change a little. Luckily I'm pretty thin, but think they're fine for longer drives.
You get used to getting in and out, and actually still easier than it was in my old Elise.
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I wanted to test drive an Elise, then I learned that human origami is necessary with each entry and exit.
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I'm probably going to take the risk and just accept, worst case, I sell/swap them.
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With mooty nearby, you should be able to sell them easily. . .

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