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Old 09-28-2010, 11:55 PM
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Default a few upgrades for the 968....

just an opinion. (you can easily mothball the original crap in an airtight case).



1. 8.5 inch wheels w/ 235-255 mm tires front, 10 inch wheels w/ 275 or 285 tires rear. astonishing cornering.


2. big brakes on the front axle. more astonishing cornering and braking out of this world with the big tires.


3. real stereo components. the crap that came with the car is..... crap.


4. the inspiration of this thread.... good stuff ~ https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-looooong.html


5. a proper 968 CS, or 911/996 steering wheel.


6. this one is optional but i like it: a nicer shift **** might be well, "nice."


7. the Deutch Nine rear seat delete...

with transcon driving in mind, the space this opens up is awesome...

http://www.deutschnine.com/mm5/merch...-aero-dynamics


8. maybe do the door panels and cassette holder over in leather.


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9. a Turbo S front lip.... or the od front lip for sure.


10. 993/968 hybrid fenders w/ oem 993 Xenon Litronics and 6000~8000K lamps.

(some of the purists might say "no, not that ricer **** !" when half the 993 guys are already running 8000~12000k lamps.

i've seen a 993 running 8000k lamps, and they look awesome. almost regret not getting them myself.

but i'm running (DOT approved) 6000K Phillips lamps with just a touch of blue and i'm quite happy with them.



like i said, you can always mothball the old crap and save it while you live in the real world.





Discount Parts Houses (the Big FOUR);


Zims Autotechnic - Bedford, TX, 800 356-2964 intl 817 267-4451

http://www.allzim.com/index.html


German Autoparts - Halfmoon, NY, 877 443-7626

http://www.germanautoparts.com/Porsche


Paragon - Corpus Christi, TX, 800 200-9366 tech 361 289-8834

http://www.paragon-products.com/default.asp


Autohaus AZ - Tempe AZ, 800 240-4620 intl 602 276-9402

http://www.autohausaz.com/porsche-au...968-parts.html



there is also.....

Pelican Parts (somewhat reasonable prices/extremely large parts inventory) 888-280-7799

http://www.pelicanparts.com/index.htm



Porsche Dealers (w/ semi-astounding discount prices);


Suncoast Porsche - Sarasota, FL, 877 923-1700

http://www.suncoastparts.com/category/PO.html


Sunset Porsche - Beaverton, OR, 503 641-8600, 800 346-0182

http://www.sunsetimports.com/parts/ (parts navigation used to be easy... but no more)



transmission parts and rebuild kits;


Advanced Automotion - Corpus Christi, TX, 817 939-6761

http://www.advancedautomotion.com/



transmission rebuilding (go to guys);


Advanced Automotion - Corpus Christi, TX, 817 939-6761

contact: Scott Dewitt, http://www.advancedautomotion.com/


Catellus Engineering; Stow, MA, 617 306-0457

Contact; Kevin Gross [email protected].


California Motorsports CMS - Lake Havasu, AZ, 928 855-5755

contact: http://www.californiamotorsports.net/contact.htm


BCM&G (Porsche Transaxle Specialist) - Athens, Ohio, 513 779-3302

contact: Brian Copans, Pam Copans http://www.bmcg-gearbox.com/contact.html


Midwest Eurosport - Bensenville, IL 630 595 5577

contact: Brian Weathered, http://midwesteurosport.com/



unique, hard to find Accessories/super cool stuff for the Porsche 944/968;


RS Barn - Newtown, PA 18940 - 215 968-2599

http://www.rsbarn.com/


Deutch Nine (Europe)

http://www.deutschnine.com/porsche-transaxle/index.php


Carnewal (Europe)

http://www.carnewal.com/


Porscheshop UK

http://www.porscheshop.co.uk/



racing/turbocharging/supercharging;


928 Motorsports; supercharger kits/brake kits/performance specialty parts/racing/street

http://www.928motorsports.com/


Lindsey Racing performance parts for turbocharging/performance specialty parts/racing/street

http://www.lindseyracing.com/LR/SFNT.html


Speedforce Racing specialty parts/racing/street

http://www.speedforceracing.com/




high tensile strength/maximum-performance driveline components


Rob M. (XSChop) high tensile-strength/performance driveline components/axles, cv joints, big brake kits/

https://rennlist.com/forums/members/69761-xschop.html


Constantine's Torque Tubes/Bearings

http://www.blackseard.com/site/

discussion; https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...very-nice.html



V8 swaps;


Eric Hill TPC - Alverado, TX - all V8 swap parts/support

http://www.texasperformanceconcepts.com/


Rob M. (XSChop) V8 swap parts/support

https://rennlist.com/forums/members/69761-xschop.html



used parts houses (the Big FOUR) also great for wheels, tires, big brakes, seats, and steering wheels);


DC Automotive - Rocky Mount, NC - 800 579-2410

http://www.dcauto.com/


Oklahoma Foreign - Moore Oklahoma (Oklahoma City area) 405 799-0645

http://www.oklahomaforeign.com/


20th Street Auto - Phoenix, AZ; 800 999-4911 INTL 602 258-2020

http://20thstreetauto.com/


L.A. Porsche Dismantlers - Los Angeles, CA 818 767-7243

http://www.ladismantler.com/ no 968 parts but great for wheels, tires, big brakes, seats, and steering wheels...




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Old 09-29-2010, 07:49 AM
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nice. I'm following almost same pattern, although no D9 seat delete, and smaller and narrower wheels. I thought F235 R255could be cool. DOn't think we need more grip rear (if there's LSD but no turbo).

boy it would be still cool to have turbo/Sc, big fat rear tires smokin'''
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3. real stereo components. the crap that came with the car is..... crap.
And it's also at least 15 years old. Even just replacing them with new factory Nokia speakers makes a hell of a difference. Finding a radio that looks at home in these cars is the hard part.


5. a proper 968 CS, or 911/996 steering wheel.
I've been through 5 steering wheels - from the factory airbag wheel, three Momo wheels and the CS. Amazing what a difference just a wheel change can make and you need to make some careful considerations IRT wheel size. A 350mm wheel is too small. 360mm is barely acceptable. 370mm is about the same size as the factory wheel, but are hard to find in the aftermarket. The CS is around 365mm. Are you going to convert to a manual rack? Are you keeping or ditching the airbags? If you're ditching the airbags, then you should consider replacing the dash with a non-airbag version. A lot lighter and it won't look weird having an airbag on the passenger side, but not on the driver's.


6. this one is optional but i like it: a nicer shift **** might be well, "nice."
I'm working on this right now. I've welded the upper section of a MINI Cooper shift lever to the lower half of my factory shifter. If I like it, I may go for a custom engraved Whalen Shift Machine locking ****. If I don't like it, I'm going with an aftermarket shift lever.


7. the Deutch Nine rear seat delete... the space this opens up is awesome...
It is a nice, clean look and one that I considered (and still am). Terribly expensive though. Something you may want to try is to take a standard 944 rear seat bottom, strip off all the upholstery and cover it with carpet. I have a spare rear seat that I'm thinking about using. But in the meantime, I've gone with the 968 cab cubbies, recovered in new Feintuft black carpet and Linen leather: http://gallery.me.com/curt.phillips/...12798513470001


8. maybe do the door panels and cassette holder over in leather.
Maybe replace the cassette holder with the 968CS coin holder and insert.
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On wheels, must admit that I like the looks of 18 inch wheels with 225/265 (or wider, as they can be made to fit). However, I know a track day instructor who recently purchased a 968. He has put 205 / 225 on stock 17" wheels. Says the car comes much more alive. Says that wider/heavier tires kills the handling. It does not have enough power to need the added grip. I thought that an interesting opinion.
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Originally Posted by odurandina View Post
1. 8.5 inch wheels w/ 235-255 mm tires front, 10 inch wheels w/ 275 or 285 tires rear. astonishing cornering.
7.5" front 10" rear (the 18" "Carrera" wheel).


Originally Posted by odurandina
2. big brakes on the front axle. more astonishing cornering and braking out of this world with the big tires.
Why add unsprung rotational weight when the stock brakes are so good? With the right pads, I can lock up the front wheels with Hoosier slicks on them, any time I want to.

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3. real stereo components. the crap that came with the car is..... crap.
Definitely needs this! But I can't get over how perfect the head unit looks in the car, and the ergonomics of it...is there any way to set up a proper system, with a proper line-in input and good speakers, that could use the front part of the CD-2? I love those buttons and that old-school green display...


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4. the inspiration of this thread.... good stuff ~ https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-looooong.html
Very cool, I've been wanting to do that...but any idea on how many man-hours that is? It looks like a solid week of all-day work...

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5. a proper 968 CS, or 911/996 steering wheel.
968 CS. Looks better AND matches the 968 interior better, plus it's lighter.

Originally Posted by odurandina
6. this one is optional but i like it: a nicer shift **** might be well, "nice."
I love the 968 ****...it feels perfect in my hand, and I think it looks great too.

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7. the Deutch Nine rear seat delete... the space this opens up is awesome...
Do your really need that big plastic-backed thing, and for $432? Why not just pull out the back seats and lay down a bit of thin black carpet yourself? It should look the same and be lighter.

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8. maybe do the door panels and cassette holder over in leather.
That would be great...might get tempting to keep adding more and more leather...dashboard, A-pillars, etc...

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9. a Turbo S front lip.... for sure.
For sure.

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If you're ditching the airbags, then you should consider replacing the dash with a non-airbag version. A lot lighter and it won't look weird having an airbag on the passenger side, but not on the driver's.
Did they ever make a 968 for any market with no passenger airbag? Or would you have to get a later model non-airbag 944 dash?
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Originally Posted by JDS968 View Post
Did they ever make a 968 for any market with no passenger airbag? Or would you have to get a later model non-airbag 944 dash?
85.5-86 944/951 dash should work without too much trouble. I used a non-airbag recovered dash in my '87 951 using the center support, glovebox insert and glovebox door out of the '86 parts car.
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it's easy to defeat that airbag. once your airbag light comes on, the whole system will be off until reset.


at that point you can pull out the instruments and defeat the light if that is your preference.


mine works fine with the 996 bag as it is also 5 ohms.




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great thread... Donn
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Another upgrade the 968 really should have is better, modern headlights. The stock ones aren't bad, but there's a lot of room for improvement. I'm working on a custom bixenon setup mounted in the bumper, I'll post it up if I ever get it worked out...
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very nice indeed... i was gonna post that as the next item (993 lights with HID kit) as they are indeed, "period correct...."


i thought it might be going a bit too far. cause a general panic, etc. but, i can't keep these nasty lights on the car much longer.... looks like it's going to involve cutting about 1 cm out of the top and 1.5 cm out of the bottom of the sheet metal and doing some body work. not sure about how much around....
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very nice indeed... i was gonna post that as the next item (993 lights with HID kit) as they are indeed, "period correct...."


i thought it might be going a bit too far. cause a general panic, etc. but, i can't keep these nasty lights on the car much longer.... looks like it's going to involve cutting about 1 cm out of the top and 1.5 cm out of the bottom of the sheet metal and doing some body work. not sure about how much around....
I don't know, I think you should wait a bit and see if I can get my setup figured out...if so, it SHOULD provide full xenon high and low beam functionality without cutting into any body panels at all.
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Well now I don't know, I'm a bit busy with another project...you'll see what I'm talking about tonight
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Did they ever make a 968 for any market with no passenger airbag? dash?
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