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Old 04-02-2013, 09:52 AM
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Default Crank case oil return pipe - what are my options?

My indy (GT-One) has told me that 'the clamp between the metal and flexible section of my crack case oil return pipe has split'. The part is £660 from Porsche... but maybe that's because it's a 930 part and so it's scarce? (part number 930 207 261 12)

They are going to take a good look this afternoon and tell me if it needs replacing or can live on for another year.

Are there any alternatives? Or does everyone just pay up? I'm sure I have seen pictures of people using non-porsche pipes, but can't remember where. Thanks for any help or advice, Josh
Old 04-02-2013, 10:10 AM
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You could "rebuild" the line by doing the following:
(1) Carefully cut the crimp ferrules off of the hard line and fitting and save those pieces.
(2) Save the rubber portion and note it's length
(3) Order new oil hose and crimp ferrules (size AN-16) from Elephant Racing http://www.elephantracing.com/oilhan...11hoseends.htm
(4) Find a shop near you that makes hydraulic hose. Have them crimp the new hose that you have sized from the old hose to the pipe and end fitting that you salvaged. Have them use a Parker No.8 crimp die.
Total outlay will be approximately $100 max.
The caveat is that the hard line isn't corroded or dented up. Being so low on the engine they tend to get impacted by parking chalks if someone backs into a space a little too far. My hard line had both issues but i had to backdate to the line that goes forward and crosses under the bell housing when I installed headers.

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Originally Posted by Metal Guru
You could "rebuild" the line by doing the following:
(1) Carefully cut the crimp ferrules off of the hard line and fitting and save those pieces.
(2) Save the rubber portion and note it's length
(3) Order new oil hose and crimp ferrules (size AN-16) from Elephant Racing http://www.elephantracing.com/oilhan...11hoseends.htm
(4) Find a shop near you that makes hydraulic hose. Have them crimp the new hose that you have sized from the old hose to the pipe and end fitting that you salvaged. Have them use a Parker No.8 crimp die.
Total outlay will be approximately $100 max.
Go celebrate with an adult beverage as you just saved $800.
Exactly!!
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we have just cut the bad hose section off the steel pipe and replaced with a piece of rubber hose and double hose clamped it and not had a problem.....we always used a piece of hose from crankcase breather that Porsche used on a normally aspirated car.....vinnie
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Originally Posted by Vincent C.
we have just cut the bad hose section off the steel pipe and replaced with a piece of rubber hose and double hose clamped it and not had a problem.....we always used a piece of hose from crankcase breather that Porsche used on a normally aspirated car.....vinnie
Vinnie, would you really trust that? Tell you what, if I buy a car from someone and I find a repair like that I wouldn't be very happy. These cars deserve better.
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Oh yes.......Aeroquip as Metal guru and Boeing 717 have said. That is definitly the way to go.
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Thanks guys, very helpful. Anyone from the UK who has had this done? I would need to tell my Indy where to post the pipe (apparently they aren't big fans of repairing pipes).
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I went with a full new replacement flexible pipe which runs back over the gearbox to the connection instead of to the rear of the car.

I had it made for about £50 IIRC a few years ago at a hydraulic company who matched the end fittings and i gave them the length measurement needed as my metal pipe had pinholes in it.

I got the original pipe repaired using brass (?) by a friends father who used to build cars back in the day and this cost a litre of scotch!
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Originally Posted by Metal Guru
Vinnie, would you really trust that? Tell you what, if I buy a car from someone and I find a repair like that I wouldn't be very happy. These cars deserve better.
that's cool...everybody repairs things their own way....brand new is always the best.....
its been on my 86 turbo since 1995 and on my 965 since 1997...still dry
so its outlasted the factory piece by 7 years on my 930 and 11 years on
my 965.....
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I had the same problem and bought the pipe from Porsche but should have gone with Big Yellows suggestion.
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Is this the same Oil hose you are talking about?

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...0#post10363900



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