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TL-Register 01-21-2011 01:06 PM

964 TurboS Lightweight
 
I'm just in a discussion about the 964 TurboS Lightweight.

Are there any of these cars in the UK (RHD) ?

Porsche denies the existence of the cars VIN: WP0ZZZ96ZPS479082 to PS479086 - Does anyone have information on these cars for UK (C16)?

any help is welcome !!

bogey1 01-21-2011 04:09 PM

If Porsche denies the existence - be very careful. I have owned my 964 Turbo for 11 years, and never heard of a lightweight.

JamesE 01-21-2011 04:44 PM

There is the 3.3 Turbo S, which is more RS style i.e. lightweight, but don't think there is a specific light weight version...

Metal Guru 01-21-2011 08:04 PM

The Turbo S was approximately 400 lb. lighter than a standard 3.3 Turbo but it wasn't officially called a "lightweight".
The factory didn't deny their existence but they didn't go out of their way to advertise them either. Technical info is also hard to come by.
A total of 8 Turbo S's were built with right hand drive.

TL-Register 01-22-2011 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by bogey1 (Post 8231724)
If Porsche denies the existence - be very careful. I have owned my 964 Turbo for 11 years, and never heard of a lightweight.

They do exist for ROW - thats for sure . Weather they are called " lightweight " offiacially , i dont know. But they got Kevelar lids ; thin glass, alloy doors and all that light RS stuff inside
here is one for sale : Turbo S
The cars where homologation models with their own VIN range

WP0ZZZ96ZPS47 9 XXX

build from Nr 479001 to 479086 and that is the reason why i asked my question -

i have data for all these cars in hand - Porsche denies the exist of Nr 82-to 86 - all UK ( C16) cars, when i look at my data.

So if someone here has ever heard of these cars - that would be great help !!

bogey1 01-22-2011 10:34 AM

learn something new everyday. 400 lbs is a ton of weight reduction. So how many of the reported 20 or so 91 Turbo S cars are lightweights? Wonder if they are street legal in the States.?

-CD- 01-22-2011 07:40 PM

"Lightweight" "Leichtbau" was the official name!

964 turbo 3.3 S Leichtbau.

Some say 81 cars other 86.

These numbers also shown in several books.

Some cars came with Airbag but the most came without
but all come with complete RS interior in full leather from the Exclusiv Section.

http://up.picr.de/6155431xee.jpg

http://up.picr.de/6155432cjc.jpg

http://up.picr.de/6155433xpc.jpg

http://up.picr.de/6155434ahb.jpg

http://up.picr.de/6155435iah.jpg

http://up.picr.de/6155436ymc.jpg

http://up.picr.de/6155437crm.jpg

http://up.picr.de/6155438amj.jpg

http://up.picr.de/6155439bet.jpg

http://up.picr.de/6155440olo.jpg
copyright by rsr.at

Greetings Christian

Flachbau 01-23-2011 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by TL-Register (Post 8233344)
They do exist for ROW - thats for sure . Weather they are called " lightweight " offiacially , i dont know. But they got Kevelar lids ; thin glass, alloy doors and all that light RS stuff inside
here is one for sale : Turbo S
The cars where homologation models with their own VIN range

WP0ZZZ96ZPS47 9 XXX

build from Nr 479001 to 479086 and that is the reason why i asked my question -

i have data for all these cars in hand - Porsche denies the exist of Nr 82-to 86 - all UK ( C16) cars, when i look at my data.

So if someone here has ever heard of these cars - that would be great help !!

There will be a build option code for this. If you can get me the build option code I can get the complete data including VIN's.

Flachbau 01-23-2011 12:21 AM

It might be option X33 - OTOH this may not be it as I think this option was available for all 3.3 Turbo and may have been 355HP. Thinking further .... I think the engine type for the 3.3 Leichtbau was M30/69SL w/ 381 HP so that would not be X33 option.

TL-Register 01-23-2011 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by Flachbau (Post 8235226)
There will be a build option code for this. If you can get me the build option code I can get the complete data including VIN's.

OptionCode is M720 for those cars ! Please have a look !

as i said Problem is that Porsche-PET lists the cars from WP0ZZZ96ZPS497082 to 479086 , the Porsche PPN-Network denies the existance . So i´m looking for someone who saw those RHD cars ( UK C16 delivery ) in real life! :surr:

@CD - Christian - du hast nicht zufällig die Fahrgestellnummern der beiden aus dem Link den du im elferteam eingestellt hattest ?


Norbert

-CD- 01-23-2011 04:49 AM

@Norbert: Ich guck mal nach.

Here a pic from a RHD 964 turbo 3.3 Leichtbau in special colour but
it shows perfect how big the leather work was done:

http://up.picr.de/6156059txj.jpg

Greetings Christian

Flachbau 01-23-2011 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by TL-Register (Post 8235434)
OptionCode is M720 for those cars ! Please have a look !

as i said Problem is that Porsche-PET lists the cars from WP0ZZZ96ZPS497082 to 497086 , the Porsche PPN-Network denies the existance . So i´m looking for someone who saw those RHD cars ( UK C16 delivery ) in real life! :surr:

@CD - Christian - du hast nicht zufällig die Fahrgestellnummern der beiden aus dem Link den du im elferteam eingestellt hattest ?


Norbert

Ok so to be clear what is needed is data on all cars WP0ZZZ96ZPS497001 - WP0ZZZ96ZPS497086 which cars should all have option code M720. More specifically you are looking for Bestell-Typ 964771 RHD cars. I understand that you are looking for real world RHD examples such as the above provided photo.

TL-Register 01-23-2011 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Flachbau (Post 8236109)
Ok so to be clear what is needed is data on all cars WP0ZZZ96ZPS497001 - WP0ZZZ96ZPS497086 which cars should all have option code M720. More specifically you are looking for Bestell-Typ 964771 RHD cars. I understand that you are looking for real world RHD examples such as the above provided photo.

yep - would be great help !:bowdown: mailadress : m491@turbo.look.com

Flachbau 01-25-2011 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by TL-Register (Post 8236371)
yep - would be great help !:bowdown: mailadress : m491@turbo.look.com

This has me curious now. There appear to be a lot of cars to identify - plus a lot of facts to clarify. I think I will put together a site similar to flachbau.com cataloguing these cars.

I can tell you that Porsche does not deny the existence of these cars and that they were officially called 'Porsche 911 Turbo S Leichtbau'.

More to come ....

TL-Register 01-25-2011 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by Flachbau (Post 8241324)
This has me curious now. There appear to be a lot of cars to identify - plus a lot of facts to clarify. I think I will put together a site similar to flachbau.com cataloguing these cars.

I can tell you that Porsche does not deny the existence of these cars and that they were officially called 'Porsche 911 Turbo S Leichtbau'.

More to come ....


hmm - Porsche Classic department do deny them ... my database shows them - i guess yours too ... I have collected some and would be glad to forward them to you for your site section, - not my playground !

by the way - i have found 68 X88 cars worldwide ...

Best

Norbert


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