klober23

I recently bought a 964 many of you may have seen on ebay. Its a 1992 C2 Turbo S2 (only 20 produced for IMSA mandate??). This car was in Car and Driver in Feb 1993. I recently received a copy, and am currently trying to verify its authenticity. I have looked long and hard as well as discussed this car on many different forums. Original window sticker for this car shows added Turbo S2 Option $10065, as car and driver states. The car and driver pictures appear(very hard to tell for sure) to have the turbo emblem on the rear deck lid as my car does. I have seen another photo of a S2 with a S2 emblem in place of the turbo. Another noticeable difference in my car to the C&D photos is the front signal lights are missing the bumper pads on mine. There is very limited to no information on this car. Any infor/ help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance

speednme

Congatulations...this was the previous discussion on your car https://rennlist.com/forums/964-turbo-forum/304678-1992-965-s2-on-ebay.html

Frank 993 C4S

Congrats on the purchase. Please post some pictures.

cobalt

Congrats on the new purchase. Please post pics when you get a chance.

I was told by another S2 owner that half the cars had the S2 Badge and half said turbo.

You might want to contact Ray Joseph from RPM Motorsports cars and see if he knows anything that can help you out.

rjh1213

Holy-back-from-the-dead-thread.

Is the car in this discussion this car for sale in eBay right now?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting

cobalt

Looks to be legit. Pricing works out on window sticker vs C of A. No view of rear badging but this might be one of the cars with the stock turbo badge. IIRC the S2's I have seen have special tags applied inside the doors and other areas that show an Andial serial number. I also am confused. They claim larger IC but IIRC they had a stock IC and the one in the picture appears to be stock size. Otherwise might be worth a look.

PTurbo965

So did the IMSA car have a sunroof too?

cobalt

No, the S2's were nothing more than the ROW X33 package or close to it. They were imported by Porsche as stock 92 turbos and sent to Andial for the conversion. You could have ordered the car any way you wanted. Porsche did this to get around DOT requirements and still show 20 cars built so they could use these parts in the race cars and still claim to be somewhat stock.

Smart but not so sure legal.

PTurbo965

Various racing bodies have punished Porsche over the years due to its success/dominance in many series. I think Porsche is always having to come up with new ways to race the competitive car it wants to. Some of this may be a little different now as the ALMS will just add weight to any cars that it deems too fast for its class, like it did the Corvette when the Aston Martins couldn't win a race. Now the Corvettes race alone against each other and the extra ballast is gone.

rjh1213

Not so straightforward to determine willingness to pay for this car.
It's very rare, yes. But has lots of mods (wheels, coilovers, exhaust, steering wheel) and lots of miles 75k.

What would a regular 3.3 fetch in the same condition?
Do you guys expect a premium for the 'S2' status?

TIA

cobalt

I would think the BIK price is not far off. Lately I have seen 92 turbos with 40-50k miles and sellers are staying firm at $50-$52k. Not sure they will get it but they aren't budging so only time will tell. There has been a lot of interest in these cars lately and the S2 adds a unique twist. The parts changed are easy to swap back so $42k with the mileage assuming it checks out with no issues sounds like a fair price.

One of Twenty

I've got one of the 20. To the best of my knowledge, only 18 in the US, and 2 up in Canada. This one appears to be legitimate.

PTurbo965

How about some pics?

last toy

VictoryMotorcars just sold a 92 Amazon Green T for $54 which I was intersted in but was outbidded. He just got a 92T Black with 20k miles asking $59k. I am surmising that the continued higher priced 94 T's showing up in the $70's and some in the $80's are driving up the price on low milage 92's from the $40's to the $50's. At these prices, might as well get a 993 TT.

Frank 993 C4S

It is interesting to see how strong the market is for 964Ts has become. The 993TT provides a lot of value (and if I am ever rich, I'd like one in my garage), given that their prices have been beaten down by much faster depreciating 996TTs.