Crazy or there's a mint green coupe in there
 

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3929427728.jpg
You might guess crazy but that's ok. I want her back to mint green and decided I wanted to see as much of her in original paint so wet sand away the blue makes a good guide coat

Keep going!!!!!

Amazing that someone would paint over such a unique color

Bring back the minty goodness - looks like a winning scratch off lottery ticket

believe it or not
 

Who ever did this to her didn't even use primer

And if they didn't use primer, maybe the didn't prep the original paint by sanding... You might be able to sand down to the original clear coat. Wax, polish, original paint! :roflmao:

Probably couldn't give away a mint green 964 10 years ago!

Looking forward to seeing this come back together in all its minty goodness .

No such luck also the windows were taken out when painted blue I think in 1998 so for now I sand it drive it mostly drive and will take apart in the winter

Keep on going! 964 windows for the most part just pop out...literally. The only one you might have to cut the seal on is the rear. The door windows don't have to be removed as the frame between the window and paint also just pops out and is held in by metal clips.

Good luck!

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e873825461.jpg
Next stop sunroof panel then down the a pillars😃

how are you removing the top layer of paint?

"Wet sand away"

Gutsiest move I ever saw, John!

my wife votes crazy
 

Thank You! I know I will have to shoot new mint over the old but doing it this way entertains me Thanks to all :roflmao:

I'm sure some people would let you entertain yourself on their cars if you love it that much, lol

my hopes
 

Really I was hoping you guys would think I'm nuts and offer to help to protect my car from me. 😀

Clearly Mathew is guiding you to continue on this path John!!!
I've subscribed to your madness. Take us on the journey!!
=Steve

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e15524b2fa.jpg
A mint green roof :burnout: :rockon:

now a door
 

Finally got some time to work on my mint green recovery program:rockon:https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5c81f962e5.jpg

:icon501:

OMG this type of stuff never happens to me

i want to go to vegas with you

Mr Sullivan what would my wife think?:burnout:

Keep it with the blue/black patina. Awesome.

Now that is something I haven't considered but not immediately opposed to and will give it some thought as I continue my insanity of wet sanding away:thumbsup:

Hey John, pretty soon you're gonna feel the urge to start taking lower valances off, mirrors off, sunroof felt off, wiper blades off, etc.... but be careful as that is a slippery slope.

Whether you are still driving it around town now or not, is not mine to judge, but I'm guessing based on your prowess, that you have no problem grabbing milk from your local market,... and giggling when a neighbor gets to say "I see you've got a bit more done there Johnny!"... All great to think about ... (at least in its current state of progression, you can still drive it!)

But eventually you'll have to make a decision on how to finish the wet sanding along all the transition edges to all those pieces/areas mentioned above. Now might be a good time to make a connection and start a dialog, either with a buddy who has a paint booth, or with a paint shop that would be willing to make that final spray you'll need. Take them along on the journey with you too. It will make for a wonderful ending.

.... unless of course you are building that paint booth yourself in your own garage. Which I would NOT put it past you to give that a go!

Keep up the enthusiasm & stoke!!
=Steve

Steve my friend from afar our minds work alike what you lay out above has been my plan all along. My son in law has a good friend who owns a body shop many years of experience and will do the body work and the respraying buffing ect I will do all the tear down and reassemblingand most if not all prepping. Believe me I have made paint booths in the garage before wife not happy :nono: but to paint bikes. I may decide to do the door jams front fender wells though myself. Thank you for the support from DC all you guys are great :rockon:

Looks like it was sold by Tiffanys?! :) . One of my favourite colours! German standard Colour, RAL 6027, is very close!

Keep us posted! :)

Go minty go!

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9d495f7c01.jpg

The journey continues. It appears who ever painted Talia blue was more ambitious when they sanded the front fender. :atwhore:

Fantastic :thumbup:
Subscribed :corn:
Why would someone do that in the first place!!!
Did they just spray the outside or has the frunk and engine bay been sprayed?

Trunk and engine bay are partially painted:soapbox: dumb a**es any way rear fender wells still mint front not. So go figure what was up with that:rtfm: not sure what this last imoge us saying but he looks mad

Unbelieveable... :icon501:

That icon, RTFM = Read The F'ing Manual :evilgrin:

That icon, RTFM = Read The F'ing Manual :evilgrin:[/QUOTE]
rtfm read the fing manual duhh makes sense now bug he stil loobs mad :)

You need to wear this shirt every time you expose more MINT!

https://www.blipshift.com/products/l...eid=7f1a83458a

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/01...g?v=1470234799

Sold out :mad:

a minty hood reappears
 

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8a80e960b3.jpg

This makes finding the low and hot spots easy. No bondo so far weird yellow primer over the mint. The white is original primer

That car has an excellent story to tell.

Thanks!
Andrew

more full frontal mint
 

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...811ecab16c.jpg

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...50694cc9e9.jpg
Next the right side door then I guess I go for the rear:bigbye:

Liking the look...maybe just clear it for a rat rod look?

Who ever heard of a rat rod 964 Mark I thought we were friends:crying: just kidding you are not the first to suggest that

Great progress..just giving you a hard time. I think you should pick this up to go with your 964.....

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...39131268&Log=0

​​​​​​​I would need to sell my house first but ot is a pretty nice car

Get the COA.
If it really is a mint green, do a windows out paint job and enjoy!

Really cool find!

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b993d27a8f.jpg

Dream find! :rockon:

Tear down begins
 

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a15d47eff2.jpgWindow frame gone

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2462b2a268.jpgDoor panel gone

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8addf515f1.jpgRear quarter glass out

GO JOHN GO!!!

=Steve

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5076387255.gif

I wish I could work on your project :)

Good luck!
Andrew

Where do you live I probably would let you :cheers:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...792c0e587b.png Calgary

Greatest. Color. Ever.
I'd run over a herd of nuns and puppies to get my hands on a mint green 964.

But, not as good as, say, a midnight blue 996 C4S. So, perhaps we should just trade even up?
I won't even ask for additional $ to even up the trade because, hey, we're brothers man, amirite?

Keep us posted. If you were in the S'west, I'd come to your house and spend a day sanding, just to say I had a hand in the restoration.

:roflmao:

I would let you help sand though Val

Makes me think of all the layers in a jawbreaker...
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...a9d3c0f0ee.jpg

Yea but Talia is much sweeter

Rust appears in Talia
 

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a0c3222d5d.jpgTalia's only bad rust so far
This is where the hot air enters the suitcase passenger side kind of bums me but shouldn't be to hard to fix. Popped out drivers side rear quarter glass paint under the trim all flaked off down to the e coat so dodged a bullet there no cancer in the metal

Suitcase pima
 

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e26cd825f7.jpg
What a pain to remove but what the hell its out:rockon:

Half way maybe
 

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d8e7d6acf3.jpg
I am claiming halfway in sanding away the blue that beautiful a-- gets it next

Da but
 

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...bb2bda8bcc.jpg
Getting closer

Clear it!! It's good to go John!!

=Steve

what the hell Steve you know I can't do that:cheers:

F me running
 

My left rear fender is clear coated the rest of the car isn't. It's taking twice as long to sand it away I'm about half done no damage or rust yet so it is a mystery to me😳

hahahaha,... I still laugh at this response John, every time I read it. You sound like my hockey buddies in the locker room.

Happy I make you laugh. Us sailors are good at swearing once asked my Mom to pass the Fu--ing butter

My Thanksgiving
 

Decided to pull rear bumperhttps://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...d01180517c.jpg
It been a good day😎👍

Front bumper cover
 

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2abb8fd3b7.jpg
Another good day

Wrong thread
 

😜😎

Making good progress !!

Mint Green Christmas
 

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6b3d186833.jpg
A nice rear view guess I will have to take ftontvsndvrear windows out soon

John...you have gotten a lot done. Great job!!

Keep up the good work, John. When your all done you need to come over and help me with my 912E.

Mine's starting to look as disassembled as yours... well, maybe not. :) Eager to see the sweet, sweet end results.

A mint cowl
 

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4f521e7d9d.jpg
I am now going to claim Oh yea I have a mint green Coupe the windows have to come out

Nice work, I can't wait to see the end result. I'll be repainting as well.
I noticed you are using a long Dura-Block to wetsand.
Are you using sticky back paper? If so, what brand are you using & what grit are you using?
I ask because some sticky backs don't hold up to wet sanding.
Thanks

I bought a dura block set
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...10febc22d2.jpg

Windsheilds out
 

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e5843c396c.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5b1a3b7dcf.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...979d220c6e.jpgFront window rust under seal
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1bc261feb8.jpgRust under seal right rear upper corner
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c519b695ea.jpgRust under seal left upper corner

I cut the seals with a razor knife front was a pain glued in black colored adhesive rear window was a breeze glue looks light color and dried up between the glass and seal between the seal and car body same as front black rubbery stuff

you are very determined. wow.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...be768b5a98.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...5b41abc4bf.jpg
Sanded down the a pillars only rust is in pictures already posted. Unless the is some rust hiding under the adhesive Im 😀😎👍

Your giving me the motivation to start dealing with my 912.

Someone from the Mint Green Team PLEASE send John one of those "Mint" tee shirts like in post #35!! The man is ON A MISSION!! ("On a mission from God" .. Blue Brothers).

Hey John, have you seen that other thread asking about the door plugs underneath each door?

https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...r-edition.html

They are talking about the serial #'s stamped in the rear section of each door metal. Have you checked yours (just for giggles)??

Keep up the great progress John. We all CAN'T WAIT to see it back in all it's Minty Green Jean Glory!!
=Steve

😩😩
 

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3167b0801c.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2761f98486.jpgYou can see inside the circle con the top picture the rusty area I found when I removed the passenger side front fender makes me sad in some ways but dam happy it is a small area should be an easy fix

Back on Talia
 

I got the flu earlier this year and got lazy. Felling better now So back to working on Talia with the help of my grandson we pulled the left side front fender and also the spoiler. I found rust in the same spot on the left side as I did on the right side still not bad and should be easily fixedhttps://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...366ca9a6fb.jpghttps://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3078ab0918.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0c10b0d6f7.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4eb25a8986.jpg

John..great progress...keep the pics coming.

I am slow
 

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...49506270c7.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6ef32ecb53.jpg

I keep chugging along getting closer to send off to body shop

Glad to see an update, John. :cheers:

Slow and steady wins the race said the tortoise to the hare. Looking good.

Thanks I have to say it is a nightmare removing the old sealant from the window channels. Nothing chemically would soften or remove the crap so scrape and sand and etching primer

We gently use a rotary wire brush in an angle grinder. Any pitted areas are then locally grit blasted before etch and prime.

You're doing a great job keep it up!

Do you have any suggestions for the head and tail light buckets

maybe slow, but methodical & diligent, which is the better route for sure John. Thanks for sharing the progress with pics.
Just lovin' that Talia is getting this attention from you. It's like she was ailing a bit & you're breathing life back into her,... and of course there's someone smiling at you from above the entire time. ;)
=Steve

Same applies really.
Try the twisted wire wheel, but do be careful and use leather gloves with stout overalls and a full face mask.

The other item we use is a Roloc air-powered mini-disc sander which comes with various attachments including grinding/sanding and scotchbrite pads that quickly screw on the face.

Sounds scary sticking that wheel on a angle grinder 😬 and putting it in a tail light housing. I appreciate your advice though more importantly though your encouragement and positive comment

Mint
 

One of my favorite colors!


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...1d2897b0bf.jpg


Keep it up.

:bowdown::bowdown:

Keep going John!!

John,
What type of etching primer did you use around the windshield? Is this a two part zinc-chromate type primer or rattle can primer? What brand are you using?

I just used rattle can for now. Not knowing when I'd get her to paint I didn't want to leave it uncovered for rust to start. I by laziness left some bare metal showing on another part of car and it had signs of it flash rusting and had to resand it. Depending on what the painter says it might get sanded back off its a pretty thin coat. As for the brand it is Dupli Color from Orielieys.

Door jams are a pain
 

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b5382cdc73.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...be7b9972dd.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...f89d45459c.jpg

😎👍

Why not send it out to media blast ??

Not sure I want to take it that far apart

Wow, this is going to be beautiful when you are done.

I'm a fan of chemical stripping, but it's a hassle. One trick I use is to lay plastic film over the stripper which slows down evaporation and forces the chemical into the paint.

If you are going to the trouble of repainting it's seems so much more thorough to strip 'er down.

Thanks for the input I on the other hand am not a fan of Chemical stripping. My car was badly painted blue with no primer over the mint green in about 1998. Windows in bad taping etc. I am a fan of the factory anti corrosion and I really only need to remove as much blue as possible and respray the mint green leaving as much factory paint intact as possible

^^ in this case with Talia, I agree John. Certainly it is the more painful, elongated process for sure.

But that is why we are all CHEERING for you to continue taking your time. Well,... there's ONE guy in particular who is cheering the loudest along side you in that garage, that's for sure.

You must have been one HELLOVA Dad John,... the patience of a Saint!! Keep on it!

Someday soon, you are going to bring that delicious Mintiness to a car show, & I am going to DRIVE to come see it in person.

=Steve

More progress
 

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6e35db0b82.jpgBefore
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...72b10cd26c.jpgAfter
I am not the best welder😁 Still working on it I put the primer on to stop rust till I am done

Otherside
 

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...b038a97c97.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...66cbc62897.jpg

More before and after of Talia's other side

Sunroof
 

Well I finally got brave and tackled the sunroof was actually quite easy an I am happy I did found a small amount of surface rust under the piece that goes across the front of the opening so I sanded wire wheeled it and put etching primer on it. All I have left is the drivers side door jam and the jam on the door it's self.

John
when do anticipate getting into paint?

I still have to weld up a rust spot on left front fender disassemble left door and sand the jams for it. Also I have a small dent in right rear fender and left front fender to fix. Hopefully in a couple of weeks I will haul it to where the painting will be done 😁👍.

John,

I'm excited to see this car with a fresh coat of mint paint. You will have yourself a very special car for a number of reasons. The car will pay you back tenfold in smiles for the patience you have had with her. I applaud your tenacity!

Primer
 

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6b390916f5.png
I went and bought primer today so I should be getting it into primer soon. I think I will start with the small parts and then work up to the main body. It had been awhile since I have done any painting stand by for updates

oh yes!

Keep up the good work,:corn: John.

I am pulling for you bud!
 

I told my wife about your story yesterday and what you are doing to the car and she said.. hmmm, rennlist is a nice place isn't it! I waited 7 years gathering parts to upgrade my964. So don't get discouraged. I'll post shortly. Keep up the good work! :thumbsup:

To hot
 

I thought I'd be painting by now but unfortunately it decided to go all global warming on us here. It has been near a hundred almost every day since I got primer which makes it to dam hot for me to paint. It looks like that the heat will stay around for at least another week or more. 😫😫😫😫

Dude!!! You need to get on it!!! We are used to TV shows where they complete total frame up restorations in 30 minutes. Well 22 when you factor in the commercials. :-)

Let's get some color on this already....
looks good !!

Thanks guys
 

I spent the morning scrubbing the frunk out it is now 90 plus in the garage so I am now having a cold beer :cheers: I appricate the encouragement it means a lot

Minty Porn
 

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...cea161ead5.jpg

To hot for painting so I spent the morning scrubbing the frunkhttps://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...328c021294.jpg
As you can see I have some black paint in the front of the frunk to get rid of

Didn't know it was originally a non-US car. :)

It was origanlly sold at the Porsche dealer in Honolulu HI in about May or June of 1991. I am not being a smart as* but why would you think it was a ROW car and not a US car?

The VIN on the frunk tag being "WP0ZZZ...". US/North American cars have other data in 4-6. :)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_VIN_numbers

My '91 starts WP0BB2, for example.

I have been under the impression that the vin in the frunk was always WPOZZZ the other areas a pillar sticker in the left door jam are WPOAB-- But I did just recently see a picture if a 93 that the vin in the frunk started WPOAB--
So I can see why you thought it was a ROW car maybe Cobalt will chime in he really seems to know his💩

I went to look at mine. I stand corrected and learned something new. :cheers:

Out of order
 

😁😁😁

Close to one full year of sanding and dedication. I am SOOOO looking forward to seeing the finished project. Very few mint green 964s running around.

Keep up the good work! Love the updates. 90 in garage is nuclear hot

Oops out of order
 

Newe

Well its about time. 😂

I was just thinking about your car and the progress yesterday. Thanks for the update. Looks good in primer. Gonna be spectacular in a fresh coat of mint green.

John
All your hard work is paying off..coming along nicely!
Marc

just make sure you wet down your garage before painting color in there that will greatly reduce dust going into your paint job. Looking good so far!!

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...300ac961a5.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...984f190c63.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...17b6c47c9e.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...70eb9de563.jpg
Thanks Mark Talia's chassis is ready for sealer and color I finished blocking it this morning

Thanks ! 👍 I wet the floor down take a door off close it off except for a large fan to blow out and a filter a window on the opposite side of the garage works real well

Keep it up! Excited to see it with the base coat on. :)

Thanks Des ! The support and encouragement from Rennlist is amazing. I bought Talia's color and clearcoat today OUCH! Price was high **9.64 but I thought the last part of price was a sign it is the right thing to do 😁👍😎 color to be sprayed soon stay tuned

Keep It UP!
 

Been following your project since your first day and first post. You have gone way above and way beyond. I think this is a milestone in your life that will have other rewards yet to be seen. I am very very happy happy for you. Even my wife now asks hows the "green" car project going! Looking forward to a picture of you with the car with the fresh repaint. Jack

Many Thanks Jack your wife sounds pretty cool

A taste
 

Alright I know this isn't a normal way to paint a car. I decided to do a test runn so to speak on the sunroof panel. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c3dcf0bcf5.jpgThere is 3 coats color 3 coats clear

Looks great on my phone. ������

Such a great color. Looking forward to the final results

Sad but happy
 

I did this little excitement to make sure all would go well😥. It didn't quite work out. I can see faint scratches in the Mint Green. Madd me sad but happy I hadn't sprayed the rest of the car. I need to go back over the car with 600 grit shouldn't take long though. Not that big of a deal especially since we had tons of smoke from the MT fires and my eyes have felt like sand paper.
Raining now so smoke is gone 👍

That's too bad. FWIW I just watched that 30 minute video by Larry from AmmoNYC or is it NYCAmmo.... anyway, it was very detailed and covered the paint part of the full restoration of his 964C4. One thing that stood out to me is that they went down to 800 grit paper on the primer just to ensure there were no scratch marks.

Good luck with this project. I look forward to the updates. Makes me wish my car was mint green.:cheers:

😁 I just watched the Ammo paint episode too 👍😎

Fantastic Car, Fantastic Thread!

Your interest is very appreciated with work and home life I only get a very limited time to work on Talia but Keep plugging along 😎 My doors are primed blocked and wet sanded with 600 and I am going back over chassis with 600 slow work when all done by hand

Keep at it John. It will be beautiful when finished.

Fantastic Thread - Love the Sympathetic restoration!

When will this be painted already?

I know I am slow been having to work at the real job a lot lately 😫 then there is the wife chores don’t get me started on that😥

Looking good !!

Keep plugging away, John!!

Can't wait to see Talia in full mint green glory!! ( I hope that's not putting pressure on you!)

Rgds,

ST

Progress
 

😁😁😁😁

I love seeing the progress!

I’m really looking forward to seeing it when it’s all done.

Add info
 

duh

Congrats on the color. Its going to be spectacular when you are done.

Looks fantastic!

Looks great John!

You guys are too kind!👍😎

the color went on real nice layed out flat but the clear was a pain and I have lots of wet sanding and buffing to do which I guess I knew before hand just wish it wasn’t sooo much

Keep it up! :) This is inspiring me to eventually respray my Targa (after I get practice in on my Mercedes, that is).

yes yes and yes...looking great !!

Thanks Mark! Here are a couple more pictures almost completely wet sandedhttps://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...91b0c30d8.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0945dd5de.jpeg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...498ac2a41.jpeg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2fcdb494c.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c90470a82.jpeg

:thumbsup:

Looks fantastic. Must be very gratifying to see it coming together.

Coming from you Anthony this means a lot many thanks and it is very gratifying 😎👍

wife & I really enjoy seeing & reading these updates JK..... go man go!!

=Steve

Wow, I had no idea you were going to tackle the entire paint job yourself. That’s a major task in itself. I can’t wait to see the results after you have finished wet sanding and polishing.

Out of curiosity how many coats of base and clear did you use? Did you wet sand between any of the coats?

😁 I think I had it in mind to do it all myself when I started . As I progressed It became a full blown desire to do so. Now it has turned to an obsession😁

The primer was wet sanded with 600 grit prior to the color being applied. The paint system I am using (Cromax by Axalta) requires the color to not be sanded, and it needs to be clear coat within 24 hours. The clearcoat has also been wet sanded with 600 grit and will get another coat. As for the color it was 3 coats before clear coat

Sweet.

Painting in your garage by yourself is a boat load of work. I haven't done it that way since HS many eons ago. Although I used Imron which I later learned was not a healthy product.

There is something to be said for doing it all yourself. A true labor of love.

How many coats of clear? 3?

Your progress makes me so happy for you, for what this car represents for you and for how pretty mintgrun really is. Keep it up!

yes 3 coats of clear will use 1500 to 2000 grit to final wet sand the clear before buffing

Your determination is humbling to the rest of us mopes.
Hope you get to drive that car for thirty years, after all the work.
Well done, and keep up with the photos!

Hey thanks Steve!!😎 I decided to stop sanding and painting for now and do some reassembleing.. My plan is run all the lines down the sides mount every covered by the fenders then mount them for the last time. Get the doors hung put in the windows put the interior back together install the sunroof 😁👍 also put the frunk back together. Then go back to panting
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...66fa0b3e5.jpeg

Oil and trans cooler mounted front bumper

Oh I am sure some of you wonder about the wheels on Talia they are an old scruffy-set of those Italian copies of Cup 2s I have my good real Cup 2s in storage 😁 Thanks for following me along on this journey

John
how about some updated pics...like to see the progress. You going to get it done before it starts snowing?
have a great holiday !!
m

Keep it up, John!

DUH it’s already snowed here 😥

Progress
 

I decided to break down this project into steps I got the doors clear coated and am mostly done with the passenger door and will do drivers door tomorrow. Once the doors are done will wrap in plastic and hang on the wall till assembly time The front fenders will be next. Then the chassis

That's a great idea. I do that with a lot of my projects. Break them into pieces and do the smaller quicker ones first. It gives me the feeling like I am really making progress. Good luck, it looks great so far.

When I first shot the color and the clear I think it got too cold in the garage. The color went in fine the clear not so good it kind of discouraged me so I stopped for a while. Finally decided to break it up to see if I could correct the issues before tackling the chassis again. I did a lot of research and detirmined the temp got to low and I had my gun set up wrong. So I am back at it. I got my windscreen seals for Christmas from my beautiful wife genuine Porsche seals 😁😎

More Mint Gruen
 

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You’re giving me motivation to get mine done, John. :) The joys of non-metallic - you can go panel to panel.

Any idea on the the size/offsets of your Cup 2 reps? Just got a set Wednesday.

Very good looking work John, can’t wait to see the paint after you have finished the wet sand and polishing.

Your license plate needs to read “FRESH”.

The car looks awesome! Can't wait to see the wet sanding procedure.

Love this project.

How about a little motivation.

Personally, I'd give the haters a poke in the eye and get license plate 'COLGATE'.

:roflmao:

Oh snap! :D

Looks great John!

Another photo
 

Looking Good!

Yesssssss!!!, Parts are going on!!!!

Looking forward to seeing more progress. Exciting times.

wow just stumbled on this thread. amazing find and amazing job getting it back together. godspeed

Hi John,

Did you finish your car?

weather should start warming up soon too John. Hoping that helps all of us with our to-do lists (at least those of us with cold garage floors :crying: )
Thanks for continuing to post on your progress here. We're out here, watching, listening, and clearly a LOT of RL Community cheering you on.

Hey, at first when I looked at the shelf in your garage, I thought maybe that was a picture of you & Matt,... but then noticed it was a calendar. You should have your wife take some time to print out some nice pictures & laminate (so your grubby hands don't ruin them, hehe), and hang them around the garage as inspiration. I just recently did that (cuz I'm older now too), plus created a collage of simple 4x6 printouts too. I just took some laminate sheets 8x11, peel them off, sticky side up, then just lay all your pics down to stick them permanently & WhaaLa, done. Easy peazy. Anyway, just a thought. Pics help me stay motivated, remind me of the good times & the reasons why I love this hobby. Just a thought. Put the wife to work too. ;-)

Take care & keep plugging away John. We all know the challenges of finding an hour here, and hour there to work in the garage.
=Steve
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car is going to look great. can't wait to see the final product.
now, who on earth changes the paint color on a mint green 964????? that's simply insane.

Hopes
 

With you on that. The fuel tank and part of the suitcase were enough for me.

My car is RHD. The tank goes in with everything else already installed but it's a tight fit. What is a pain is that the sender is on the side under the expansion tank on a RHD car so you have to undo that to get to the sender to siphon the tank. If I do this again I will try to run the car until well on reserve and then idle it until it stops.

I couldn't work out the banjo connection on the fuel tank either so never replaced the seals. I'm running the car with no cover for a bit just to make sure I don't get leaks.

I've had to remove the bulkhead about 2 or 3 times so far, and will have to pull it yet again to replace the left side evaporator fan cage. :( Apparently my repair decided to let go again.

Glad to see the progress, John. Keep going!

Hey John, have you seen the Instagram story (called an "InstaStory" - series of short video clips strung together. My kids got me into it),... from the IG "porscheartdaily" ??

Just today they have uploaded a bunch of short video's from a track day event (overseas somewhere), and there's a beautiful Mint Green 964 (with cage, & looks like a RS).
The 5th segment shows a walkby as the guy is in the staging lanes,... and then the last segment shows it rounding a corner at the track. nice sound too.
cool.
I can't tell which track it is. Maybe someone here knows.

How ya doin' these warmer days?
=Steve

Hey Steve thanks for checking in I will check out the video you mentioned. Some health issues have kept me from doing as much on Talia as I’d like nothing serious I got bad hips and am need of both being replaced 😫

Hi OP,
Beautiful car and impressive project well documented.
I'm looking for mint green paint.
Who was your supplier?
Thx in advance.
A

TY!

Sorry
 

An update
 

This is absolutely fantastic! Love the color.

Mr. Wolfe

hmmm, I know that feeling John. Been there before. My wife kids me a lot, since I am always so much about the "fun in the journey", and she is more of a destination girl.

I sometimes keep projects around (usually much to her chagrin) so that I always have something to work on in the garage.

Motivation is a strange thing. It ebbs & flows in mysterious ways. And when that project is a large one, like Talia,... is nearing completion... well there may just be a fear in that. Great part is YOU can define when it ends. Will it ever really be over? Probably not for a long time.

From my outside looking in, the one thing I'd say is that once Talia is indeed ready for cruising, C&C, etc,... it will be the story that gives you satisfaction,... and I foresee a lot of people wanting hear that story. a MINT story. A story of a son & a Dad, and a journey that latest longer than anyone else could have realized, including yourself.

Stay the course John. The journey will be a LOT longer than just the rebuild. You've got a long way to go till the story is completely told.
=Steve

You've got more visitors checking on the project. Most excellent indeed!!

FWIW,

Years ago I had a friend who owned a business (custom furniture and decor) and was building a plane in his garage. I asked him how he did it. He said he went to work every day at 08:00 and came home every night at 5:00. He had dinner with his wife and kids and stayed in the house until 7:00. At 7:00, whether he wanted to or not, he went out to the garage and committed to working for 30 minutes on his plane. If, after 30 minutes, he no longer wanted to work on it, he would stop and go back inside.

He never stopped.

He said that no matter how tired he was or uninterested or unmotivated on any one day, by the time he had worked on it for 30 minutes his enthusiasm was back and he usually worked on it until about 11:00 each night at which time he forced himself to go to bed so that he could get up and go to work the next day.

Original paint 😁
 

John, I can't but help respond why I check your thread frequently. Every time I see the progress you are making, you are uncovering what many of us are like on the inside. It is great to see a car that is more than it appears to be. More emotional attachments than meet the eye. And a future with promise. Thanks for posting and keeping us informed. I like mint green more everyday!

More original paint
 

I suppose that's bound to happen due to inattentive drivers. :\ My decklid (!) isn't original, for what it's worth. Not sure about the bumper covers though.

A little ambition😁
 

Road to recovery😎
 

More Minty goodness
 

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Such dedication! Amazing!

Looking good John.

Not many shops would take things this far. She will be very special when done.

Can I send mine to you to paint? :D

Great work on your progress, can't wait to see it completed.

You don't think many shops take two years or more to do this much work. I know some vintage Ferrari guys waiting on 9 years now.

If you don't know what you're doing, I'm not sure where that leaves me, lol! Impressive work, it's going to be awesome to see it completed!

Great to see some more progress on this .................Nice work :cheers:

A little more 👍
 

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The underside of the hood getting some tasty Mint Gruen add to it 😎

With clear
 

Hey John
Looking great !! let's get this on the road !!
I sent my 964 out for stripping and repainting about 4 mos ago after the disasters job that was done to it before. It has been painted and cleared and getting put back together. Hope to get it back by the end of the month.

Should I 😂😂
 

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Well what do you Think Should I clear this as is after all what Mint Gruen you see on the hood is original paint 😂😂
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The underside

I'd paint it. No question. :cheers:

Plus 1

Love it ...............:thumbup:

We also have this crazy sub culture going on over here in Australia were you have to make your early Air cooled 911 look like a beat up junker with different colored panels , rust , exposed auto filler and loads of patina, riding on skinny steel wheels with crappy old tires ,and dropped to the deck ...................I just dont get it :banghead:

I've seen that, you can even get rust you paint on apparently! I'm into guitars, manufacturer's are selling "road worn" guitars for an extra cost. When you could just buy one and beat it up! I think it's stupid. As far as johns frunk lid goes it's totally up to him. Maybe hang it on the wall and paint up a nice one?

Clear over the patina. You can always paint it later.

Convinced
 

Unbelievable
 

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It will hang here temporarily till I’m read to smooth out the bugs 🤨

Amazing work !!!

you have a heated garage, and a good mask, I hope.

what gun do you use? shoot a picture!

Starting to buff
 

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Looks really great.

It is really starting to come together... Merry Christmas! Jack

THis thread always makes me happy! Keep up the good work and Merry Christmas!

Awesome, looking good!!!

Merry Christmas to all
 

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A door handle is added

Merry Christmas John, car is looking great. Cant wait to see it outside the garage and finished!

Great progress! Looking good.

I had the same problem on the one near the front wheel, no matter what i couldn't get it to click in . I took it off the part and it clicked in fine. Interested to hear why.

Yes I purchased all new pins and those red things that go into the body, I'm pretty sure you are right, the shape of my side will must be slightly different to my body and won't go in far enough.

My shark tins are for some reason aftermarket fiberglass so cant relate on that one.

You sound the same as me, no rush! The car is looking fantastic in the latest pic!

Good one john, don't know how I didn't think of offering this advice. This is how my aftermarket shark fins are attached.

IIRC I put the plastic nut between my forefinger and next finger, place it on the bolt end and give it a slight turn. Once the nut is on the bolt I use a ratchet spanner, similar to this. It is possible.

LOVE this color!

Mr. Wolfe

:rockon: Still excited about your progress.

This is such an inspiring thread. Really appreciate you sharing it John. I look forward to updates remain in awe and what you've accomplished. Great stuff.

Seats Reconditioning
 

Go John GO!

Since spring is just around the corner, I hope you are feeling better! Jack

To Lucky NOT
 

Well I had high hopes of getting Talia completed this spring first I tore cartilage in my right wrist can’t do crap with my left. Then just as my wrist was gettin better we get hit with massive amounts of rain late year blizzard and then torrential rains. It gets worse My wife and I took ten days off I thought great I can get a full week of work on Talia😥. Then last Tuesday my basement started flooding still has water coming in I can’t get a break 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🥵

Ouch, it sounds like you’ve had a rough couple of months. Hopefully the weather improves and your can get your place dried out quickly. More importantly hopefully you can get back to working on Talia.

By the way, the wrist thing must be going around. I broke my right wrist a few weeks ago and haven’t been able to drive the manuals.

Looking forward to the next installment.

Shoot John, I saw your thread back at the top and was looking forward to a GOOD update. Oh well, I guess in the mean time you could put together a To Do list and a plan of attack for your second or third or fourth wave, whatever this one is. You will get it done. Good luck.

John, you need to suck it up because we all need progress on this car. ;) Joking. Here's for better luck coming your way.

Mr. Wolfe

Thanks Mr Wolfe 😎👍The suck it up made me laugh we’ve been sucking and pumping water for 8 days running out of the basement

Wow,... hey John,... I must admit, somehow my lack of postings caused RL to not pull this thread up on my recent viewings, so I am just now hearing of the injuries & flooding. Ouch. It'll improve on both fronts for sure,... and this is a journey anyway for sure.

Thank goodness it was the basement instead of the garage tho!!

Good progress on Talia!!

=Steve

Many thanks Steve only good news I have today is the water after two weeks has finally stopped coming under the walls in my basement other than flooring no real damage. What a relief 😎👍

Progress
 

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I know I’m slow like a sloth 😎 but I did this plus the underside of the fuel door and headlight trim rings.
I have the hood to go plus above mentioned fuel door, headlight trim rings plus a shark fin that got thumbed by me while wet. As previously mentioned the underside of the hood is already done

John thanks for the update. It is probably closer than you think. It always seems farther away the closer you get.... Details details. huh? The pieces you are showing are looking good. :)

I should have added since the last update I decided I didn’t like how the left front fender was fitted. So I pulled it off Friday discovered when I replaced part of the rusted away part it was a bit to wide and didn’t allow the fender by the door to drop down all the way. What a pain🤣 if not for that everything would have been painted.

Done with the paint
 

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The frunk hood😎
I’m finally done spraying paint well at least the color I may have to reshoot the clear on the front bumper cover. I guess it’s down to wet sanding and buffing and install the windows 😁👍

oh man, giddy!

What a journey. Looking real good now though!.

Smile!

It looks awesome. Now it will be just as important to pay attention to the final assembly details to make sure the car looks absolutely perfect.

Can’t wait to see the next installment of pictures.

Awesome! Cant wait to see this thing on the road!

very,... very pleased to see Talia in this state of progress!

Anyone from Hawaii on this forum?? ... Anyone see this car on the roads there, in it's dark blue state prior to this transformation?

Thanks John, for taking us along on your journey.

=Steve

Looking great!! Can't wait to see this finished up

Getting close, awesome!!!

Done with the color
 

Had surgery on my wrist two weeks ago it felt better the next day so I finished painting the rest of the small parts. I still may redo the clear on the front bumper cover
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No more color to shoot 👍😎

So close! Keep it up....

I had to
 

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😁 What can I say
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I couldn’t resist hooked up the exhaust added 3 gallons of gas 10 quarts of oil pulled the DME cranked till I had pressure then fired her up I just had to get in and turned her around under her on power first time in 2 years 10 months 🥰❤️
Not sure why I needed 4 pictures though 🤣

... bravo! Anything worth having is worth waiting for!

Awesome, congrats!

shoulda taken a pic of the lawn chair you put in Talia to back er up!! :bigbye:

Looks Great J !!!
=S

I just sat on the floor 🤣😎👍

Cant believe what you went through with your project. Pure archeologism! I am without words

Rear window seal
 

I can certainly understand why a person would be tempted to try and reuse it. It truly is a pain in the arse to get the wires in the proper groove 🤨 now I’m really trying to understand adding the glue in the seal groove that the glass sits in 😖

In five days it"s three years since your first post!
What was your original plan time vise?

Love this thread!

😂😂 2 years 😎👍

Rear window install
 

Well been a while since I’ve posted. I had been struggling with the rear quarter window trim piece. I finally got them to stay in but then had trouble getting the windows in correctly too far forward thanks to some great Rennlist members and their good hints got them in this am where I’m happy. After getting my rear window out of storage I discovered the tabs for the defrost grid off. I tried the repair with the fancy defrost grid glue but still didn’t have continuity in the grid. As I only drive Talia in the summer I decided to not replace the window and just reinstall it as is. I did run the wires for the high taillight thru the seal and install the rear window myself this morning also though I hadn’t planned on it 😳. I’m sure I can get it back out with some help if needed

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Talia is coming along nicely. It is a long road but the finish work albeit time consuming is the most gratifying. :thumbup:

Those tabs are so fragile. Any tug on the harness or even removing it can do quick damage. I recall learning that the hard way on my SC. IIRC I soldered it and was able to make a connection although it took many tries and I think that was a fluke.

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Not installed just sitting there 😎👍

Go John Go!

We're all pulling for you, and the Mint dream.

This car is looking mint!

Mr. Wolfe

You've put soooo much work into this! It looks great!

Awesome work! It won't be long now!

I am curious John. Are you going to do a final "finishing" polish on it when you are done with assembly, or do you have other plans? It is hard to tell from the pictures of how fine the finish is currently. I am just curios. I plan to do my car myself in about 18 months after I retire and just wanted to know your thoughts on a massive DIY project.

I still have a lot of buffing to do some parts like bumper covers are dam hard to hold unless mounted also I have limited storage room

I also discovered the older paint or the parts I painted first buff better. It’s a huge undertaking frustrating but oh so rewarding to do every bit by myself 😎👍

😳😳

John, you may be on to something. I remember there was a paint guy that I talked to when i painted my first car with Imron about 30 years ago. He also suggested waiting 2-3 months to allow the paint to come to a full hardness before doing a final polish. He was right as i suspect you are discovering. I think paint reaches its "cured state" lets say 97-98% in a matter of a few days, but takes some time (depending on the hardening additives that have to cook off during the drying process) to reach 100%. I talked to one shop and noticed that they had several cars that came out of the paint and cure booths (used specialized lights) and they were setting in the sun. He said some time in the sun (a couple of days) does wonders for getting the finish to gas-off and fully harden.

You did the Imron route as well. I painted my first 911 back in the late 70's using Imron. Nasty stuff but makes for a rock hard finish once cured. Fresh paint is soft and takes a special skill to polish. I was never one for touching fresh paint only a few weeks old and prefer to wait if I can but a pro can do wonders with the right process. I just had this bumper painted for a friend and it came out perfect although I had to be very careful installing it as it can easily be marred.


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When I painted cars with oil based paint, I have zero experience with Imron and today's water based paints, we would advise the customer to wait around three to four weeks before having their detail guy do his work on it.

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There is nothing like having good help and nothing better than it being a grandson

John we need a good walk around I-phone video in the sun. It looks good and I am sure your grandson is looking forward to a ride in it soon? .

No he don’t want a ride he wants to drive her 😎

Slow but sure
 

I’ll be getting the windshield in this week. Haven’t done anything to the interior probably won’t till winter. Also I have a few paint mess ups to fix 😢 but will drive her soon
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as you can see no seal on front bumper yet I have a new one to install once I’m done with buffing from bumper cover

Outstanding... simply outstanding.

Windshield installed
 

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Front bumper cover seal
 

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Getting closer still

Looking great

It's looking great , John.

Your patience, tenacity and determination is an inspiration, it makes most of us here wish we had the same qualities..been following you for a couple of years and plugging for you all this while.

Can't wait to see the video of you driving the completed project with your grandson in tow!

Keep it up.

ST

Thanks for the encouragement guys. I haven’t drove Talia since Oct 2017 I needed to turn her around in the garage so I thought what the hell so I put my good Cup2s and tires on drove about a mile up the road and back😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Boy did that feel good.

Woohoo, I bet that felt awesome, there's nothing quite like that feeling!

Another picture
 

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I’ve been cleaning and buffing the passenger side

Darn that is looking good. Almost there!!!

Short drive with Talia
 

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More of the drive
 

More
 

Duplicate post. 😎

So good to see it on the road. It must get quite the reaction from people?

JOhn, I am so happy for you! Great accomplishment in what must seem like forever. Too bad you didn't have a camera on your face.... the smile would be incredible........ but you would probably be embarrassed for the tears of joy!

Awesome man, congrats! Car sounds GOOD.

Mr. Wolfe

Many Thanks guys it did feel good to drive Talia again. I still have some things to do to her I have a couple of spots I need to fix in the paint. Rear bumper cover being the most critical.

Looking great! what an awesome journey.

Fantastic!!!! Many safe and healthy miles ahead. Don't make her too perfect otherwise any little chip or mark will drive you crazy. Get out and enjoy the ride not like we have much else to do these days.

Congratulations! You have followers from all around the world!

like me in Sweden!

Dam that’s 4500 miles from us 😳
Thank You for joining me on this adventure

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Took a drive on Iron Mt Rd between Keystone,SD and Custer State Park here in the Black Hills. It’s a fantastic road there are pigtail bridges and tunnels one that perfectly framed MT Rushmore in the tunnel opening

Most excellent! Talia has quite a following at this point.

Awesome, congrats! Looks like you've got a great spot to exercise her!!

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wrong link

Short video
 

updated version in later post

John there are many projects here on rennlist that are a labor of love but none as monumental as yours.

Dam it Anthony you made me cry

Ditto

Talia’s story
 

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Talia’s story more driving in this one