There's no Sub!

Let me start by saying hello. I am brand new to being a Rennlist member.
I have read for 2 plus years.
I have never owned a Porsche but I know what I love.
Ok so I'm currently looking at a high mileage (170,000)
Factory Turbo look. What extra problems would I run into to make a Widebody
964 to a C2, besides what I've read on this and other threads. Basically you got Turbo suspension and brakes.
964 Turbolook not available in C2 unless your the guy who ordered the
Sounderwich 93C2 widebody. That's the rumor at least.

Also is this a stupid idea I guess I could convert a C2 to widebody
But doesn't have the heritage of a factory M-491
Ballpark price is 70,000 FYI
I'd probably plan to make it a 3.8 or 4.0 but street mostly
Car. But would most likely do it with a doner 964 block and
Put factory engine on a shelf.

cobalt

Good luck

You are better off converting a NB C2 to WB than changing a very rare WB C4 to a C2. IMO the best approach to convert a C4 to C2 is to buy a G50/03 and new axles drop the AWD system weld in a new shifter box and have at it.

The value of the C4WB is in it being original so if you are paying up for one and convert it I would keep the original parts as this will depreciate the value of the car. the C4 WB did not come with turbo brakes up front. They used the standard C2/C4 fronts but are easily converted over to Big red/blacks. The WB turbo style rear trailing arms are not as desirable as the NB setup. They are big and heavy and slow at responding. Finding a spare engine to convert is not easy and the conversion is expensive.

By the time you are done you can pick up a nice 3.3 turbo for about the same and be better off IMO.

kos11-12

We are wanting for Jack last call to see if its conversion works find,
his conversion is about keeping the C4 gearbox and hydrolic LSD.
lets not forget that the C4 has a very good (road) ratio gears, better than most other standard C2 gearboxes,

There's no Sub!

Ok so converting C2 to wide body is there real steel available?
I'm imagining factory stuff is expensive does anyone make a GOOD widebody
Conversation kit? Also is it possible that anyone makes the S air inlets
End goal is normally aspirated 4.0 possibly 3.8 widebody Rs
No tail. I like the widebody not tail look. Singer's little mini duck tail thing is all
I'd consider. Mostly Street car 325hp wide power band
Perhaps 325-375 torque.

cobalt

There are all sorts of issues depending on MY of tub used and how far you want it to look factory. The tail actually does a lot at higher speeds. I am not a huge fan of the WB without a tail. You can use 930 fenders and flairs and butt weld them but then it takes more work to make the rockers and other parts work.


Does anyone have a listing of the gearing of a C4? I never considered that part although for street driving the G5/03 is fine. Also are the 64 gears interchangeable with a G50/03? I have both AWD and RWD boxes sitting around might be worth swapping parts if they are better. I am assuming the LSD is similar to the one in my 928GTS which I am not a fan of over the stock units although they are not the greatest compared to a Guard unit.

There's no Sub!

If tail is handling wise a big deal perhaps 75ish turbo tail or RSA tail
What about the S air inlets if I remember correctly it's the X-88
Option I saw a little mention of it on a thread but nothing concrete?

cobalt

I noticed a huge improvement on my NB C2 by adding the RSA tail at tracks like VIR where you can legally drive fast The bi-Wing on my 3.8RS tribute on track keeps teh back end firmly planted. A duck tail will help but does little compared to the RSA, early turbo, or late turbo tails.

The X99 fender vents were available years ago and are a bit of work to install properly. I haven't seen a set in years and it is rare people do these types of mods anymore. Mark Smith from flachbau.com might have a lead but he hasn't been active here lately.

If you are going to do the X99 vents IMO the turbo S flachbau tail is much nicer looking in person and looks good on a WB car. It is the largest non bi-wing tail used on any street Porsche and does a great job with downforce. There used to be a couple of good aftermarket manufacturers for these but I haven't seen one lately.

I have a factory original turbo S tail in its original gel coat I was going to install on my turbo but then market value made me think otherwise.

Tails are a personal preference I happen to like them on most coupes but not on targas and Cabs at least NB's. .

Although I think what you would want is a 92 turbo S tail or an All fiber glass version of the RSA tail so it matches the paint and blends in more than the rubber lip which is heavy.

The single piece is a 94 turbo S tail. the yellow car is the 92 turbo S.