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Old 06-26-2016, 07:22 AM
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Work continues on the Project car. I bought new Black Sliver knit carpet sections for the door panels as you can't dye nylon and the interior is going All Black (pun intended on NZ's mighty Rugby Team).

Taking off the old carpet was like skinning a Possum (Australian marsupial that is plague proportions in NZ). Putting the new carpet on might be as difficult as putting the skin back on the Possum. I'll leave that until tomorrow
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Old 06-27-2016, 06:15 AM
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Great stuff John. I took a few days to read all your posts. Wish I could do a fraction of what you've done. Keep it up.

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Originally Posted by peteho
Great stuff John. I took a few days to read all your posts. Wish I could do a fraction of what you've done. Keep it up.

Peter
Thanks Peter, I have no special skills, just a willingness to have a go despite the fact I might stuff it up. Most of the time I get there in the end.
Old 06-27-2016, 07:36 AM
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I went to fit the door carpets tonight only to find that my can of ADOS F2 was a solid block of adhesive. I'll need to buy a new one.

So what to do? Let's start laying Dynamat!
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I have the patience level of a teenager so the idea was to start on the door card carpet, then alternate between that and the Dynamat. That way the contact adhesive would have time to dry.

The door card carpet doesn't look that hard until you look closely. The factory fit has a constant line of vinyl showing and some of it is in two planes. Add that the carpet has to be pulled tight which impacts on the amount of vinyl showing and there is no alternative but to do it slowly. I used clamps to position the carpet then took off one and glued under it, then when dry I moved on to the next one. Laborious but accurate. I did half of one last night and am happy with the result so far. I think it will look close to factory and brand new. Yes new Sliverknit smells different to 26 year old Sliverknit!

BTW: The new door carpet was sourced from Pelican.
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As mentioned above, I interspersed applying Dynamat with carpet fixing.

It appears that a 3.33m2 pack of Dynamat is enough to do a 964. There's little wastage as offcuts can be used. I applied it to areas not soundproofed as original e.g. under the seat but it would only stick on the right hand side. Something on the left hand side under the ECU made it a loose stick. Btw I agree with the glue removal comment. There is no need to go crazy if you are covering it with Dynamat. In fact that OE glue sticks to Dynamat better than to paint.

When finished the only original foam will be on the transmission tunnel.
Next up is fitting Dynaliner.
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satisfying work! enjoy - i would double up the fire wall KWIKN altho maybe that's what the D liner is for?
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Costs to date. 1990 C4 with 148,000 miles.

Car Purchase GBP 25,050
Change number plate GBP 10
Personalised plate GBP 350
Dynamat - Bulk Pack (3.33m2) GBP 215
Dynamat tool and tape GBP 25
Dyanliner - 0.5" (2.22m2) GBP 210
Dyanliner - 0.25" (1.11m2) GBP 83
Ados F2 GBP 33
Battery GBP 123
9 litres Mobil 1 Racing 4T GBP 140
Oil Filter and washers GBP 21
Reskin left indicator GBP 191
Right indicator - ex spares GBP 0
Centre indicator - ex spares GBP 0
Rear decal - ex spares GBP 0
Front decal - ex spares GBP 0
Repair odometer GBP 70
Front B6 Shocks GBP 783
Rear B6 Shocks GBP 279
Bump stops and covers GBP 60
Door pocket carpet GBP 80
Textar Brake Pads GBP 113
Brake anti squeal mushrooms GBP 16
Brake pad sensors GBP 25
Kienzle Car Stereo GBP 124
Function First Delrin Gear **** GBP 139
Used rear wiper arm GBP 54
Engine mounts GBP 86
Engine mounts fixtures GBP 41
Door handles GBP 29
Console Cup GBP 22
Foam GBP 25
Rubber GBP 65
Polystyrene GBP 5
Door fixings GBP 17
Screw bolts for rear seats GBP 13
Carpet GBP 794
Door seals GBP 55
Mirror button GBP 13
Front seat recover kit GBP 982
Rear seat recover GBP 522
Door membranes GBP 84
Front and rear lid struts & Pins GBP 70
Touch up spray paint GBP 53
Total GBP 30,956

I'd say that this is typical of an under-maintained 964 e.g. saggy engine mounts, non functioning engine and frunk lid struts, worn door seals, original knackered shocks, worn drivers bolster, cracked/crazed rear lights.

What is less usual and ultimately more expensive is letting the sunroof drain into the interior to the point where it all needs to be replaced. However there is an upside in that the interior colour can be changed and is all new. Good for another 26 years!
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Thanks for the updates. Good stuff, as always!
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Thanks for the updates. Good stuff, as always!
No problems, I do it as much for my own records as to share.

BTW which silver is 758? Mine is 980 Silver Metallic.
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Originally Posted by HiWind
satisfying work! enjoy - i would double up the fire wall KWIKN altho maybe that's what the D liner is for?
It is very satisfying. I just received an email to say my carpet etc has been dispatched so we are reaching the best bit, seeing the finished product.

Dynamat is the first layer. Dynaliner is the next layer. It's a closed cell foam. I believe it does more sound proofing than the Dynamat. Depending on the sound attenuation I may yet fit rubber sheet over the Dynaliner. NZ roads use a rough chip surface that is very tiring on long trips. The goal is to make this a comfortable sports car.
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Pretty good for a novice upholsterer if I say so myself. One down and one to go. GBP 80 landed in NZ for two door carpet pieces in original quality Sliverknit. About GBP 3 of contact adhesive and some time. Sorted.
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Old 06-30-2016, 06:58 AM
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Still removing some items. Door membranes and more of the tunnel foam went today. Just about time to add. That's the fun bit. I also decided it was time to drive it again so the gear **** and a spare seat went in
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http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-...1115069335.htm John you still after one of these, will a 928 wheel fit?
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Thanks Pel, I had checked it out and despite the visual similarity it wasn't a fit for the 964. Funny that so many have been replaced with Momo wheels etc and none have surfaced for sale.


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