Busta Rib

This is ironic considering Rennlist is part of that "social media" thing.

beetle08

Werd! Magnus is a stand up guy who lives and breathes Porsche. More power to him and we need more like him to keep this hobby alive.

Vegas993

BLACK-BETTY

Agreed. We had a very, very large L9O meet at the Ace Cafe Porsche night that Magnus attended with all our 964s. He was in town and wanted to say hi, so we organised it.

There was press there from Speedhunters, Porsche etc, etc, etc... Magnus spent the whole evening chatting to Porsche enthusiasts, barely giving press the attention without being rude to them either.

He was charming, articulate, intelligent and interested in hearing about many modded cars that people were chatting to him about. Spending time looking, learning about their cars. In fact he spent quite a lot of time around V8 converted VW buggy thing...

I spent time chatting to him also, I have nothing but kind words to say about him - as I would do about the great Porsche crowd I spend time with. He's a very regular affable bloke.

It just so happens that he looks unusual, has a great collection of cars he designs (perhaps not builds) and articulates a car philosophy many people identify with.

I have no problem with his social media. Social media exist for so many subjects, this is just another one. Just enjoy him for what he's worth - a nice guy, with nice design ideas and a nice collection he shares with people.

So what if he cashes in on marketing. You don't have to drink the kool aid.


Agreed there is such a thing as over tyre-ing a car... However that's just my opinion.

I have seen so many different approaches to handling dynamics with these 964s, we all have our preferences. Every modded 964 I have seen has a relatively different approach. You build it to your spec and that's the beauty.

I'd say that once you've driven a 996 you've driven them all - most will be the same. The diversity of modding we make, means that every 964 is different... and that's the beauty.

I just happen to identify with performance...

Indeed their is nothing original about his cars... hell people have been hot rodding forever. But! It's the combination of different elements about him that make a good story - one that has been 'framed' by a nicely shot short movie etc etc.

That's what branding is, it's framing a combination of seemingly ordinary to make them appear extra ordinary. Take the W9O, we've created a brand out of nothing. The ingredients are nothing special, but the combination of elements and 'framing' makes it something that people actively get involved with.

What's more interesting is that this branding/ framing has a positive effect on the value of his builds... whether branding is worth the money in our own opinion or not is the key (and applicable to products the world over). Clearly it does since his cars sell for crazy silly money... there is a tangible asset. So he builds quality cars and brands them $$$$$$

I for one would buy one of his cars and would pay for the obvious quality, but not the branding.

Recently we sold a 964 that we advertised as a W9O car. It got lots of interest and sold very well indeed, because people knew we wouldn't advertise a crap 964...

Perfect.

Moving on, he told me that there won't be drilled door handles and louvers on this one...

ManuFromParis

Ha Ha Ha !!
It was so much fun to read all the hateful and jaleous comments about Magnus' fame and work !

Thank you guys, you made my evening !


Anyway, I can't wait to read more about this topic's real subject : his 964 project !!!
If haters could go away and let stupid fans like me enjoy it for what it is, it would be very cool...
;-)

cobalt

I don't consider rennlist as part of the social media per say. It is a public forum were we discuss pros and cons vs looking for acceptance by likes and dislikes and very little is discussed.

I guess I miss the times when the car was the center of our attention and not a medium someone is using to mold his image around. I see little positive in media sites that only post pictures and everyone is waiting for what comes next. I have been involved in early 911 restorations lately so I look at a lot of these high end restoration shops post detailed pictures of their work. Many times people go crazy over the before and after pictures but all I see the lack of detail that should be there for what is being charged.

I have nothing against him as much as there seem to be so many kool aid drinkers lately that find what he is doing having so much merit. From what I see as a manufacturer of precision parts most of my life I find his work to be not worthy of my attention so I will bow out of any further Magnus conversations.

Sorry I interrupted and please continue ogling his work.

BLACK-BETTY

Nothing has changed Anthony, a world where the car is the centre of attention exists is still spinning perfectly. The world of social media runs parallel and in some instances works to the favour. Their is nothing knew about publicising. What is, is speed and accessibility by all - which means that suddenly even the worst of the worst have a voice...

Don't spend time caring. Take social media with a pinch of salt. That's what most of us here do... neither do we ogle or dislike. Happy casual observants. Cheer up, you come across as bitter.

For the sake of giving social media some saving grace and distracting my mind of today's working day... Social media (specifically Facebook) has proved absolutely pivotal in creating a social community of Porsche 964 drivers for the World 964 Owners.

This is to us a technical forum whilst the W9O is a social community. Social media has allowed us to meet great like minded people, organise track days, mountain tours, discounts, DIY sessions, rebuild crashed cars etc, etc etc through the great will of wonderful people. With the collective chapters amounting to over three hundred 964 owners give or take, social media has worked for us. There is a good side to social media - you just need to find it.

Case in point here is a picture of the European W9O chapters together, over twenty 964s on track for a double header weekend - with thanks to social media.

Anyway back on topic, I look forward to observing what Magnus does.

Cheers,

hockenheimr

Hockapedia on Social Media:

'Social Media' is a recent subset of 'The Media' which is a man-made term invented to describe certain behaviors characteristic of the human condition over 1,000s of years.

'Social Media' has proliferated with communication technologies and has allowed us 'the peeps' a growing say in what we think....thus very positive for all of man-kind!

I really like Magnus, but even if you don't like him and you talk about it on social forums like Rennelist this is positive for 'Social Media' in general and actually very positive for him as well. How else can you explain why Justin Beiber is so popular

Just we need to avoid getting emotional to the point where we start insulting other people....which is actually very negative for social media. These are discussion between gentlemen and thus we must always act like gentlemen.

This is how my brain processes things.

ManuFromParis

Anthony, I hope you did not take my on-purpose provocative comment personally, especially since among rennlist's users, you're obviously one of the most respectful participant and be assured I value this more than anything !

I am certainly not a Magnus groupie, even though I love the way his cars looks and I like the personal style this guy has and I like when he talks about Porsche because I feel passion.

But I'm actually much more impressed by in-depth body, chassis or engine modifications such as I found here on rennlist.

I was just very surprised how this topic became like a witch-hunt about this guy who is just a truly Porsche enthusiast and collector, who indeed takes advantage of his recent fame and popularity.

Who would not ?

But what is this advantage exactly ? Few tee-shirts and stickers, fame ?

I think the opportunity to design wheels is amazing, even though I wouldn't buy them (I prefer the Fuchs mk2)
This business will likely not get him much money, but if it does, good for him ! At least it got him a bunch of wheels to fit his cars and gets them a more personal touch. Again, good for him !
The fact that his fame made it possible is, I think, a very good thing and I'm happy for him.

Maybe he'll sell parts in the future, specially designed, and that would be great as well !

This reminds me of the Roland Sand success story. It's now a bit stretched from where it was 5 or 6 years ago but it's a success and the parts and projects still look amazing to me, so I'm happy and I want to see more !

ManuFromParis

Redcoat

The most sensible thing I've read over 9 pages: balanced, honest and open.
Have a virtual snack on me Sir.



As the gentleman from Paris infers - Peace.
After all they're just cars and Magnus is just a car bloke.


Cheers, Whatty.
An Ex-Redcoat.

ACSGP

Well, the ONE thing I hope MW does is to build a beautiful 18" Cup 1 wheel, forged, lightweight but looking stock. ET for the various models should be perfect for both NB and WB. Less than 20 lbs for a a 10" width.

Now that would be really cool.

cobalt

I said I wouldn't speak out about this anymore but I lied. Your words say it all and as much as I have my opinions they be better off in off topic under its own heading. But sadly as I agree that the pros can be huge the cons seem to far outweigh negating their value and social media is IMO quickly destroying societies fiber. I have been here long enough to remember the days when he would have been mocked for playing dress up instead of praised. I guess this is called progress.

Might as well see what he comes up with and what others here think until he moves onto the next flavor. I will try to keep my opinions to myself.

Jupiterfish

I think he is a minor part of why prices have gone up for certain models....his "fame" attracts alot of people to buying porsches that probably never would....

GilesHanna

Brian from Rotiform already has.
Been sold and now somewhere in the baltics iirc.