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Old 10-22-2014, 01:42 PM
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Was thinking of rebuilding my 964 engine, but my 996 also has a blown motor, so I am considering selling the 964 as is. 1991 Amazon Cab ~70k miles. Car is so gorgeous (photograph is in Randy Lefingwells book). Any ideas what 964 might be worth, with blown motor?
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I'm not an expert by any means and I don't know what mods it has but I'd put it between $14-17K assuming the block doesn't have the crank sticking out the side or something major like that.
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No Mods, totally stock. original tools, covers etc.




Old 10-22-2014, 02:22 PM
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The other question would be where to advertise to sell the car as is?
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You could advertise it here and on Pelican for a start, the Samba might be another site worth checking but you may get a few more crazies (like Craigslist). When you say blown motor, what exactly happened? I'm sure Greg will chime in and tell you what he paid for his Targa shell, I think his was complete minus the engine so that could give you a baseline.
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Cheers Laurent!

The rebuild quote I just got on the 964 was $9-12k. Plus getting a rebuild is time and hassle, so I figure that impacts the value a lot too. I'm thinking $10-15k?
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If the car is perfect except for the engine needing a $9K-$12K rebuild, I think $10K may be on the low side unless you want a very quick sale. The only problem with selling as-is will be that the vultures will be trying to get a steal and if you're ok dealing with that, go ahead. I know it is a hassle but you may have an easier time selling with a rebuilt engine, folks would rather pay for a clean 964 with a recent rebuild and receipt to show, over a non running one with question marks.
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+1, good advice LPMM.
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What is the issue with the engine? Is it a complete bottom end rebuild, or just a top end.

Depending on the damage, there may need to be cleaning of the oil system, which might put your estimate higher. 9-12K for a complete rebuild is on the low end for the bay area.

Other than that. Is it a manual, or Tip. That influences the cost. So, with a nice example selling for ~30K, subtract the high end of rebuild cost, and then another 5K for hassle for the new owner and that would be your sell price, in my opinion. So maybe between 12 and 15K?
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IMO you've a much better opportunity to recoup the costs of a 964 engine rebuild, than you will with rebuilding the 996. Prices for the two cars are moving in opposite directions (unless your 996 is a GT3/Turbo variant).
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There is an amazon green 1991 C2 manual cab for sale just north of you (Santa Rosa) that has 102k miles. Full history from new, aesthetically a 6-7/10, mechanical maybe 7/10 that can be bought for ~$25k. If your car were 100% with a newly rebuilt motor I think it might bring $32-37 depending on how nice it is. Assume $15k for a motor (because stuff ALWAYS comes up). If I were a buyer I wouldn't pay market price - rebuild cost because there are some other unknowns when you can't test drive a car, the hassle of transporting a non running car and the time it would take to get the car done. I think it is worth ~$15k as it sits.
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IMHO a non-running car is worth the sum of its parts minus the hassle of parting it out, so I would say $10K tops, as is. I also would be very skeptical about the cost of a rebuilt at $9-12K without having seen the internals, so that number will not persuade me to pay any more than above. Also, consider that anyone who buys a car that needs an engine is looking for a steal.

You likely recuperate the cost of the engine rebuilt plus some because a documented good rebuild would attract a lot of buyers that will pay top dollar. Alternatively, you can find a used engine with good leak down and compression.
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Originally Posted by Ken D
IMO you've a much better opportunity to recoup the costs of a 964 engine rebuild, than you will with rebuilding the 996. Prices for the two cars are moving in opposite directions (unless your 996 is a GT3/Turbo variant).
EXACTLY! Please fix the 964 and sell the 996. This is like asking whether or not to sell your rolex so you can afford to put a new battery a walmart casio.
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Originally Posted by Nader Fotouhi
IMHO a non-running car is worth the sum of its parts minus the hassle of parting it out, so I would say $10K tops, as is. I also would be very skeptical about the cost of a rebuilt at $9-12K without having seen the internals, so that number will not persuade me to pay any more than above. Also, consider that anyone who buys a car that needs an engine is looking for a steal.

You likely recuperate the cost of the engine rebuilt plus some because a documented good rebuild would attract a lot of buyers that will pay top dollar. Alternatively, you can find a used engine with good leak down and compression.
+1. If car can be bought running for 25k, and you need a 10k+ motor installed, you should be ecstatic to get 10k. Something tells me though that 7500-8000 will be where most buyers are at. Hopefully Im wrong
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I would pay ten for it with blown motor.


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