cobalt

He was nice enough to update with pictures, the damage is not uncommon and not as extensive as many I have seen. I would need to look the car over to see how far it actually extends but far better than I expected. It was still a hard hit. It is interesting that 95% of what I have seen is the front right as with this car. I would question his opinion on what it would take to repair properly but could be lived with. The cowl if done properly shouldn't be reading so high so I suspect bondo and paint and a good shop wouldn't need to paint the roof to do it properly. I still expect that it will need work in the near future. But after what we have been seeing this is better than most to start with.

Bloose993TT

Seller seems responsive and knowledgable as far as I tell. A good sign compared to the recent influx of ******** selling their P cars on BAT.

clubrcr

I have been following BaT from quite some time. I don't think the issue is a knowledgable seller. It is an uneducated buyer. These auctions boost up prices on both good and bad example of the car. These auctions cause prices to be skewed upward. Maybe I am looking at it the wrong way, but I believe it helps makes a higher than normal price for a serious flawed car and pushes prices higher for the pristine example.

BaT people that have no experience with the model are making comments that help bidders bid. I have made several comments on Porsche auctions warning people to do their homework. Sometimes I feel like these auctions are like a feeding frenzy.

It doesn't make for a healthy market. I guess it is just Economics 101.

Just my opinion.

911Jetta

From Road Scholars:

#tbt To the second time we offered this ‘94 3.6 Turbo in #PTS #slategrey non Metallic. We first bought the car in our early years with just 1,385 miles and sold it almost 15 years later with 1,985 �� #roadscholars

JAB12

S.White

cobalt

I would never buy a car at auction unless it is the one and only and you have no choice. The most reputable houses still sell cars that aren't worth touching IMO.

For example here is a lovely 964 turbo 3.6 that has more issues than many I see but far better concealed to the uneducated buyer. I can point out a number of huge issues with this car well beyond the wrong seats and steering wheel. Not sure what happened to this one but it was clearly reworked to try to sell to some unsuspecting buyer.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/es19/essen/lots/r0102-1994-porsche-911-turbo-36/733577

On the surface it looks great to the unsuspecting. I believe this car was previously owned by lister L8apex. It has the S2 intercooler his had

but it looks as though it has had a rough life at one time and has been cleaned up.

I am curious what some of you might be able to point out as concerns. For the right price it might be an OK example for someone to get into a driver 3.6T cheap but far from the top, quality wise.

911Jetta That is a gorgeous example and sadly appears to be barely driven.

clubrcr

I agree with Cobalt. Auction houses are nothing more than a place to get buyers and sellers together. These places are there to turn a profit, and although some auction houses might turn down a car to run through based on certain criteria to keep up their reputation, they are not doing any PPIs or guaranteeing the quality the of car.

In some cases, it might be better to stay away from an auction entirely. You are buying a car on a "time clock" which makes your decision quicker than normal and being caught up in the bidding of others, might lead to over paying for a long road of repairs. Sure, you might have some type of recourse if the car is represented poorly, but it is better to take your time, ask questions and get a professional assessment on the car before it is bought.

Paolo1

On the black 3.6, I see some sloppy tape lines around the door jamb vin sticker as well as an odd hole in the underside of the trunk carpet. What else?

Marine Blue

cobalt

I trained you well young Padawan LOL. You got the key issues, additional photos or looking the car over would tell more.

Great stuff. It might seem minor to some but when these cars can command $300k for a pristine example picking up on these things can make a huge difference on how far to bid.

S.White

I couldn't agree more with both of your comments. I unfortunately have some personal experience with "near misses" at some of the best regarded auctions... Wishing it was easier and the world was more honest....

cobalt

Never mind it appears it has been corrected.

Matt Andrews

Anyone know this car?

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/a...rera-rs/727288

I do understand from many of you here that know these cars that its probably a $300k car if its as nice as they represent it to be.

cobalt

I don't know the car but I wish I did. If I were a betting man I would say from what I see its the real deal in a great color with very little to hide. The Christy Brinkley of 964's. It has been cleaned up a little, I suspect an engine out clean and new sound deadening but as far as the 964 N/A NB cars go what isn't to like. I'd get banned if I say what I want to.

I suspect we could see new records if two people want this one.