Great AMERICAN 964s for sale
02-16-2018, 10:45 PM
#3738
Three Wheelin'
http://victory-motorcars.ebizautos.c...-17193841.html
thoughts on this car or ...any thoughts on this seller ?
thoughts on this car or ...any thoughts on this seller ?
02-16-2018, 10:50 PM
#3739
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Thank you, much appreciated. I called them to discuss the car after I saw it on eBay. I didn’t love his response to my question of the cars general condition. He basically fell back on the fact that they are experts, and their reputation was enough. Not exactly a quote, but that was my takeaway.
02-17-2018, 09:43 AM
#3742
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It has Mille miglia cup1 replicas on right side and one on left front and looks like that French cup 1 copy on left rear. Can't remember the name of those right now.
02-17-2018, 11:53 AM
#3744
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Is it just me or is that the crispest looking print on the option sticker under the hood yet it is all wrinkled?Not to mention the font? I would like to see how it compares to the one in the manual? Also just speculation but typical signs of blend line in door jams. Would consider metering the paint I suspect a respray possibly more but something ain't right?
I have looked at some 94 MY cars lately that appear to have been repainted and have had the vin stickers on the panels reproduced. Supper high quality windows out bare metal respray and all tags in place but a respray no doubt. The problem is they got everything right but the printer made the vin number far to deep black. Worse yet they are claiming original paint and asking too much.
Here is an option tag from an all original 17k mile car. I omitted some info since this is not my car but I am accustomed to seeing them look like this. Can anyone show one that is known to be original and looks like the one from the red car? It is possible they used other fonts, printers and paper but I haven't experienced it.
02-17-2018, 01:14 PM
#3745
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All the option code hood stickers I have seen match the top one with faded numbers/letters and a slight yellow hue due to age. I would certainly question the bright white sticker with darker letters on the lower one unless it’s a very low mileage car that has been in a controlled environment.
02-17-2018, 01:54 PM
#3747
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All the option code hood stickers I have seen match the top one with faded numbers/letters and a slight yellow hue due to age. I would certainly question the bright white sticker with darker letters on the lower one unless it’s a very low mileage car that has been in a controlled environment.
I am seeing some very nice attempts to replicate these and other tags but the problem is they are not correct in one way or another. It appears not only do we need to start looking at if the tags are in place but if they are original as well. As prices rise no doubt this will happen and I am starting to see it at the highest level.
I assume the tag for the red car in the manual will show as the one I posted. If so that makes this a clear reproduction. No doubt the manual will probably not exist.
02-17-2018, 02:28 PM
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It’s rather unfortunate that there are so many uncouplous sellers out there that will do whatever they can to dupe a buyer. Used car sales has always had a very high level of dishonesty associated with it but it seems lately It’s being taken to a higher level to really bring in the big bucks. What’s interesting is that it seems to be commonplace for the 964, maybe because they were so undervalued for so long that very few good original cars exist anymore?
02-17-2018, 02:35 PM
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The Targa on BAT had an interesting post, apparently it’s only been driven 70 miles since 2006 and the speedometer was changed very recently. Certainly that would make anyone question the validity of the mileage. It’s in good condition but the seat leather does appear to have more wear than would be standard on a 50k mile car. Being a Targa I would give the seller some credit as the sun will cause interiors to prematurely wear if the top is left off often enough.