Is the 964-C2-manual-coupe the next early-911S?
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Is the 964-C2-manual-coupe the next early-911S?
Is it just me, or is there a progressive iconization of these cars taking place?
Rauh Welt Begriff has moved from relative obscurity to the mainstream. Singer has a order list for their bespoke creations and are snapping up cars, so too Paul Stephens Autoart. 9m and Rennsport Systems are undertaking unparalleled engine upgrades and refinement for competition. Companies abound that are using them as the basis for longhood backdates and RSR clones. Long term Porsche aficionados are lining up to add nice examples to their long term garages. Individuals are coveting them as cheap but extremely capable racers. The VW "dub" crowd have adopted the 964 as their new hero car.
The demand had already led to scarcity of these cars.
Is this happening with any other iteration of the 911?
Rauh Welt Begriff has moved from relative obscurity to the mainstream. Singer has a order list for their bespoke creations and are snapping up cars, so too Paul Stephens Autoart. 9m and Rennsport Systems are undertaking unparalleled engine upgrades and refinement for competition. Companies abound that are using them as the basis for longhood backdates and RSR clones. Long term Porsche aficionados are lining up to add nice examples to their long term garages. Individuals are coveting them as cheap but extremely capable racers. The VW "dub" crowd have adopted the 964 as their new hero car.
The demand had already led to scarcity of these cars.
Is this happening with any other iteration of the 911?
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yup.
1964-1973 are highly priced.
1974-1989 impact bumper cars are gaining demand due to the high prices early 911s command.
964 market is super hot. Price and performance is great, and backdating/customs are on the rise as people are realizing the potential of this generation. Bone stockers also look great and are a very livable air cooled 911.
993 market is very strong.
It appears a clean 911 is a solid car to hold onto.
1964-1973 are highly priced.
1974-1989 impact bumper cars are gaining demand due to the high prices early 911s command.
964 market is super hot. Price and performance is great, and backdating/customs are on the rise as people are realizing the potential of this generation. Bone stockers also look great and are a very livable air cooled 911.
993 market is very strong.
It appears a clean 911 is a solid car to hold onto.
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This should be an interesting conversation.
I do not know the answer to your question but I am amazed at the
number of early 911 guys who also have a 964. And others are actively looking.
Try to think of another 911 that has had such a dramatic turnaround.
And it's real. I don't see these guys selling.
I do not know the answer to your question but I am amazed at the
number of early 911 guys who also have a 964. And others are actively looking.
Try to think of another 911 that has had such a dramatic turnaround.
And it's real. I don't see these guys selling.
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I hope not...if so, it means I sold out too early
I agree tho...plenty of guys I talk to, who are dreaming of buying their first 911 are now saying they want a 964 C2. Within 911 circles, various models come and go out of fashion (eg in the 80s a longhood was deeply uncool and many were converted to impact bumper)...but I don't think I've seen non-Porsche guys so into a particular model of 911 before.
If Magnus turns up in one, it'll complete the trifecta
I agree tho...plenty of guys I talk to, who are dreaming of buying their first 911 are now saying they want a 964 C2. Within 911 circles, various models come and go out of fashion (eg in the 80s a longhood was deeply uncool and many were converted to impact bumper)...but I don't think I've seen non-Porsche guys so into a particular model of 911 before.
If Magnus turns up in one, it'll complete the trifecta
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I think it's very possible and I think the RS is also helping to push up prices for the C2.
After a slight wobble earlier this year, I now have no intention of selling mine for a long time yet.
After a slight wobble earlier this year, I now have no intention of selling mine for a long time yet.
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In answer to the original question, no. If changed slightly to 'longhood' the answer is yes. To understand this better than I can explain in a single post it is worth your time to look at the thread '90s R Gruppe 911' on the Early911SRegistry.org
Now the 964 RS is the new early S.
Now the 964 RS is the new early S.
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Last two C2s I inquired about were priced OVER $40,000 and with 50,000+ miles!
964 wide body C4s are now $65,000+
Get 'em while they're...cheap?
964 wide body C4s are now $65,000+
Get 'em while they're...cheap?
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Really great to see how popular the 964 has become, especially with my own Coupe C4 sitting in my garage
I do wonder what the prices for the C4 coupes will do, will they follow suit? I don't foresee myself ever selling my car but just curious!
I do wonder what the prices for the C4 coupes will do, will they follow suit? I don't foresee myself ever selling my car but just curious!
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For track day oriented buyers I sense a significant bias to the C2 Manual Coupe given the 100kg weight advantage. When you put that aside I think it will come down to condition rather than configuration, at least for the smart buyers.
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A good friend of mine has a 73S, it was the second 911 I'd ever driven (first was a tip cab...).
That car was so raw, so frantic, so over the top.... effen awesome.
The '64 is a great car, I love mine, but it's no early S.
That car was so raw, so frantic, so over the top.... effen awesome.
The '64 is a great car, I love mine, but it's no early S.
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Besides most track guys will upgrade the suspension and thus the C4 will no longer understeer.
This forum is full of first posts from potential buyers going 'C4 or C2' or 'looking for a C2' every single thread ends with the universal census - there is no difference.
Hold on ta ya 964 C4s - all the experts agree, oh and Total 911 has been singing their praise over a 6 page spread recently.