964Lovac

I seemed to have not made time to get to the local barnes and noble to read about it...quite a shame as I'd love to read it! Was that the November issue?

Jay H

It's not just the 964 that is popular. ANY low mileage, nice condition 911 is bringing big money. We're seeing the same thing happening to 964's as is happening to 2.7 liter mid years, SC's and 3.2 liter Carreras. What was a $12k driver is now a $20k driver. What was a $30k show car is a $50k show car.

I'd love a ''74 to '77 2.7 liter in mint shape with original paint and a fresh motor. I bet to secure one of those, $20k wouldn't even do it. 10 years ago, you couldn't give away a 2.7 Middy. 15 years ago we laughed at anyone stuck with a mid year. No Sale unless it had a 3 point oh SC transplant and looked like a Euro Carrera.

Demand is simply exceeding supply. Money is a bit more easy to come by for some folks, so they want to get into a 911 and with a very limited amount of cars, prices go up.

When I sold my low mileage 964 this spring, I had my ad up on Pelican for 7 minutes and my phone almost melted from all the calls. Demand is nuts. People will pay anything for a low mileage car.

John McM

No intention to start a long discussion, but In NZ conditions at least that would be an educated decision. As you can see from my signature and historic posts I have a C4 that spends 90% of its time at the track. I don't currently feel the need to switch to a C2 given my driving level (more to gain improving my skills, than if would get out of the weight reduction), but there will come a day when I would be faster in a C2, at least in the dry. Here in NZ we seem to get more dry track days than wet ones. BTW I have RUF strut brace, Bilsteins, ARBs so I don't have any understeer issues.

As you're no doubt aware, most track driving is about acceleration from the mid range speeds, not from rest. If you accept Adrian Streather's book numbers our C4s are materially slower in 4th gear acceleration. As my car is mostly at the track I've been compensating by taking weight out of it with new seats etc. I still think I'm running heavier at starts than one of our groups' C2. My comment is not aimed at handling, but the impact of additional weight. My Turbo 3.6 could use AWD on dry tracks to get the power down on tight corners, but I've yet to sense that the 964 needs 4wd to get its power down efficiently, on a dry track.

Johnny G Pipe

The C4 will always be playing catch up, even though just about everyone who has driven/owned one in anything other than a track only environment would fervently agree that the 100kg penalty is worth the advantages. Maybe the market should also remember the 959 genetics in there. Sadly though, I suspect there is a current increase in C4 -> C2 conversions going on..but approaching a greasy November roundabout this morning, carrying a little speed having picked up my daughter from a sleepover, I wasn't worrying about 100kg!

ras62

That heavy, power sapping, unreliable 4WD system is the work of the Devil!

No difference indeed...

964Lovac

Oh well!

I'll keep my C4 and enjoy it, at least it has my back if I get a little too greedy on a turn

ilko

The market is hot because there are practically no manual C2 coupes for sale. A few years ago when I owned a couple of these cars there were many to choose from. And you could get a very decent car in the high teens and low 20s. Now forget it. The 964 has been a less loved iteration of the 911 for a long time but that's no longer the case. The 993 which is everybody's favorite is becoming way too expensive for a lot of people and they turn to the 964 which also drives 964 prices up. As always, supply and demand. Great to see that these cars are being appreciated!

Jaye Bass

I certainly hope the market keeps on appreciating. I paid a premium for my nearly flawless 92 C2, though I plan to put tons of miles on mine...unless I win the PCA raffle. ;-)

ilko

Buy more tickets, awesome prize this year! Seen the car in person and it's absolutely spectacular.

DanielJ

Had no clue that the 964 market was heating up. Think this is wonderful! My '92, 964 C-2 Cab is the first new car we bought off the show room floor in July of 1992. Currently, 54K miles and is very close to original. Replaced the alternator (of which we still have the original) and was a recommendation by our local dealer..... I wonder.... Headlight lenses because they were cloudy and that is it. Oh, and naturally, the battery along with the other service items.

Spare has never been on the road and still have the plastic hand gloves to keep the manicured hands safe should the need of a roadside tire replacement become needed.

Grand Prix White/Navy Interior-Top. We have loved this car since the day we brought it home.

DJ

PS: 5 Speed.

nathan1

Nice to see you on Rennlist! Your cab is GORGEOUS, I had the pleasure of displaying next to DJ this summer at the NWPCA Porsche Grand Display at Carillon Point. Here is his cab next to my RSA.

LOVE YOUR FORD GT!!

keynes

Wife has ok'd a U.S. dark color '93 targa tiptronic!
Now to find one..

creaturecat

137 '93 Targas imported to N. America with the tiptronic.
How many US cars?
How many dark colours?
How many left?
How many decent?
Good luck.

nathan1

I know where a white 92 964 Targa Tip is. Clearly white is not dark, but since there are so few Targa tips one might have to bend a little on that front. Also I would probably lump all 92-94 cars together vs. just a 1993 as they have the mechanical improvements vs. the earlier 964's plus a fews nice updates (mirrors, wheels, etc). If you are interested feel free to PM me and I can give you the contact to the owner.

LPMM

Not dark but there is a GPW Targa Tip @ Jaremko Nissan in Spokane, WA and it has been for sale for a while. They listed it at $28K a few months back and it is now down to $25K I believe. Also a GR one on Fleabay.