Which to buy: RS America vs. '98 993 Carerra S
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(Number of 993 owners with a superiority complex) > (Number of 964 owners with an inferiority complex)
Which probably explains to an extent why they're so vocal
But seriously, your criteria for buying are -
1. Collector condition (both cars equal)
2. Pure driving pleasure (this is subjective and can't be ascertained without you driving the cars, so no result)
3. Getting something unique (both cars equal)
Therefore, it's back to the coin-toss.
The make-or-break point of an RSA purchase seems to the manual-rack - and therefore, you should prob try before you buy. If buying sight-unseen, there is less risk of disappointment in the 993.
Just IMHO...
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nah...the 964 crowd is just quiet because they are probably jonesing for that RSA...
If you want a classic air cooled car that prices are rocketing up on get the RSA. You can make all the arguments you want about it being an overhyped/overvalued C2 but the prices speak for themselves. I'd love to find one in the condition/price of a few years ago.
I think the 964 represents the ultimate of the air cooled classic 911. The 993C2S is a nice car but they are a bit blobby of a design, and quite frankly from a cockpit view the only thing different is the lack of the headlights out front...
If you want a classic air cooled car that prices are rocketing up on get the RSA. You can make all the arguments you want about it being an overhyped/overvalued C2 but the prices speak for themselves. I'd love to find one in the condition/price of a few years ago.
I think the 964 represents the ultimate of the air cooled classic 911. The 993C2S is a nice car but they are a bit blobby of a design, and quite frankly from a cockpit view the only thing different is the lack of the headlights out front...
#18
personally i have owned both, i prefer the 964. reasoning, i prefer driver involvement. the rsa will stir your soul if you like to "drive". thats not a hit on the c2s as its a wonderful car in its own right, but as said before you should drive the cars personally. even if you just find cars local to you to go drive so you have a fair comparison. my .02
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Large part of that is that there were nearly twice as many 993s built to 964s. Twice as many owners, twice as much chat. Shouldn't we be the ones with the superiority comlpex? Social elites are normally minorities
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I find I jump into the 964 more often than the others for a drive to the grocery store. But my 993 is a close second.
There is something about the 964 and an RSA is just more of that.
Just my 0.02
There is something about the 964 and an RSA is just more of that.
Just my 0.02
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Pretty straight forward question:
Looking to get into an air cooled Porsche.
Both cars are in very near mint condition with around 60k on the clock. Both manual (obviously). RSA is in Guards Red and C2S is silver.
I've never owned an air cooled Porsche, just a 996 and a bunch of BMWs.
What are people's thoughts?
Looking to get into an air cooled Porsche.
Both cars are in very near mint condition with around 60k on the clock. Both manual (obviously). RSA is in Guards Red and C2S is silver.
I've never owned an air cooled Porsche, just a 996 and a bunch of BMWs.
What are people's thoughts?
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If your looking for a collector car I would say neither. Both have far too many miles. Collector owners seem to pay a premium for sub 40k mile cars on the 964's and sub 20k mile cars for the 993's. Otherwise I don't think you will see these cars go up that much more in value.
Buy a car you like and be done with it. Otherwise if you are looking for an investment rethink your options. A low mileage clean SC would be a far better investment than either of these right now even a 912 for the right price would get you a better return in 5 years.
Buy a car you like and be done with it. Otherwise if you are looking for an investment rethink your options. A low mileage clean SC would be a far better investment than either of these right now even a 912 for the right price would get you a better return in 5 years.
#25
Because its a less hard core version compared to Euro RSs. It still retains the majority of the weight a standard 964 has.
#27
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If your looking for a collector car I would say neither. Both have far too many miles. Collector owners seem to pay a premium for sub 40k mile cars on the 964's and sub 20k mile cars for the 993's. Otherwise I don't think you will see these cars go up that much more in value.
Drive them both, and buy what you like.
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Because the RS is a true light weight sports car and has many improvements including seam welding, light weight glass and magnesium wheels the RSA as nice as it is is nothing more than a low option C2 with manual rack, tail and simple door cards. The difference in weight is minimal over a C2 and you can easily convert a C2 into an RSA not as easy to convert a C2 to an RS.
Last edited by cobalt; 06-08-2013 at 12:13 PM.
#29
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Not hold a candle? Me thinks that's a bit of an exaggeration....
http://rsamerica.net/articles/roadtest/duPont.htm
http://rsamerica.net/articles/roadtest/duPont.htm
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Pretty straight forward question:
Looking to get into an air cooled Porsche.
Both cars are in very near mint condition with around 60k on the clock. Both manual (obviously). RSA is in Guards Red and C2S is silver.
I've never owned an air cooled Porsche, just a 996 and a bunch of BMWs.
What are people's thoughts?
Looking to get into an air cooled Porsche.
Both cars are in very near mint condition with around 60k on the clock. Both manual (obviously). RSA is in Guards Red and C2S is silver.
I've never owned an air cooled Porsche, just a 996 and a bunch of BMWs.
What are people's thoughts?
If you've never owned a air-cooled Porsche then my recommendation would be a 1970 911S non-sunroof coupe. Ohhh wait...thats probably a bit over budget eh? Well then the 964 it must be.
If you are still restless after that excercise, then buy a 97 993 Twin-Turbo.