View Poll Results: Which big butt?
1994 Carrera 4 Widebody
58
59.18%
1998 Carrera S
40
40.82%
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964 Widebody C4 or 993 C2S for same money?
#16
Burning Brakes
Just went with the 964 Widebody.... ah and let me go drive mine now :P
Ideally my wife would have a 993 C4S... got my eye on one (the previous owner of my 964 - one day he will sell I suspect).
The 964 looks better to me, where the 993 drives better to me.
Ideally my wife would have a 993 C4S... got my eye on one (the previous owner of my 964 - one day he will sell I suspect).
The 964 looks better to me, where the 993 drives better to me.
#17
Three Wheelin'
I've owned a 964 C4 wide body; I own a 993 C2S. Most will agree the C2S is a "better" car; ie. more refined and more collectible in the long run. 964's have had their price appreciation in the past few years (especially the MY's 92-94); the 993's are now going through this pricing appreciation. I actually prefer the look of the 964 wide body, as to me it represents the quintessential 911 look however I much prefer the way the 993 drives.
1. Price appreciation: I would say the opposite is true, 993s have already appreciated whereas 964s are still undergoing this process after years of being undervalued
2. 993 C2S being more collectible: I'm not totally sure on this but i think the 4 widebody is a much rarer car than the C2S. I think this would make it more collectible?
#18
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
Agree the 993 probably drives better but not sure about some of this...
1. Price appreciation: I would say the opposite is true, 993s have already appreciated whereas 964s are still undergoing this process after years of being undervalued
2. 993 C2S being more collectible: I'm not totally sure on this but i think the 4 widebody is a much rarer car than the C2S. I think this would make it more collectible?
1. Price appreciation: I would say the opposite is true, 993s have already appreciated whereas 964s are still undergoing this process after years of being undervalued
2. 993 C2S being more collectible: I'm not totally sure on this but i think the 4 widebody is a much rarer car than the C2S. I think this would make it more collectible?
It is for this reason that I think it might be more collectible. Though the 964 is rarer that doesn't necessarily make it more desirable or valuable. Or maybe, in time, it will...
14 to 14 votes...you guys aren't any help at all;-)
#20
Rennlist Member
It looks like you have been through a couple 964's, maybe a 993S would be nice to have in your stable. I like the slick modern-ish styling of the 993, but the 964 does take my vote. Just gives off that feeling of older guy with refined taste. Kind of like a nice swiss made watch that people overlook because it's not a gold presidential or a two-tone sub. My opinion and 2cents.
#21
Rennlist Member
Old-school Turbo fenders win every time. Sorry, it's true.
It's a stunning and rare car that looks fantastic stock (and worth more).
OR
With a few simple reversible mods, you can change the whole character of the car with a Duck and some deep-dish BBS wheels.
Everyone needs to own a Turbo bodied car at least once!
You an switch back and forth...
It's a stunning and rare car that looks fantastic stock (and worth more).
OR
With a few simple reversible mods, you can change the whole character of the car with a Duck and some deep-dish BBS wheels.
Everyone needs to own a Turbo bodied car at least once!
You an switch back and forth...
#22
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
It looks like you have been through a couple 964's, maybe a 993S would be nice to have in your stable. I like the slick modern-ish styling of the 993, but the 964 does take my vote. Just gives off that feeling of older guy with refined taste. Kind of like a nice swiss made watch that people overlook because it's not a gold presidential or a two-tone sub. My opinion and 2cents.
Old-school Turbo fenders win every time. Sorry, it's true.
It's a stunning and rare car that looks fantastic stock (and worth more).
OR
With a few simple reversible mods, you can change the whole character of the car with a Duck and some deep-dish BBS wheels.
Everyone needs to own a Turbo bodied car at least once!
You an switch back and forth...
It's a stunning and rare car that looks fantastic stock (and worth more).
OR
With a few simple reversible mods, you can change the whole character of the car with a Duck and some deep-dish BBS wheels.
Everyone needs to own a Turbo bodied car at least once!
You an switch back and forth...
Something like this:
#23
I can't fault your logic. I think it's worth noting, however, that the 993 C2S is widely considered the best looking and driving air cooled 911. I like the styling of the 964 better but...
It is for this reason that I think it might be more collectible. Though the 964 is rarer that doesn't necessarily make it more desirable or valuable. Or maybe, in time, it will...
14 to 14 votes...you guys aren't any help at all;-)
It is for this reason that I think it might be more collectible. Though the 964 is rarer that doesn't necessarily make it more desirable or valuable. Or maybe, in time, it will...
14 to 14 votes...you guys aren't any help at all;-)
However a tie (or close to tie vote) on the 964 forum is basically a "win" for the 993 C2S. My guess is that the same poll on the 993 forum would run at least 80-20 in favor of the C2S. Just saying
#25
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
That and the fact 964 guys are the coolest (having owned two myself;-)
Indeed these are getting pricey. I passed on a really nice silver on black in 2009 for $42,000.
#27
Rennlist Member
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#28
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
Have any pictures you'd like to share?
#30
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
I think I've told you before but it looks stellar on the MY02 wheels. I believe you told me that they are narrow body wheels with spacers, correct?