Longhood Friday: 964 backdates and other retro ideas - Page 5 - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums

Go Back  Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums > Air/Oil Cooled Technical Discussion Areas > 964 Forum
Reload this Page >

Longhood Friday: 964 backdates and other retro ideas

Notices
964 Forum
Sponsored By:
Sponsored By:

Longhood Friday: 964 backdates and other retro ideas

 
Old 10-24-2012, 12:07 PM
  #61  
Wachuko
Professor of Pending Projects
Rennlist Member
 
Wachuko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 9,881
Default

Ohhhhhh.... Dear Santa alright!

Name:  MagnusWalkerbackdate911.jpg
Views: 6354
Size:  124.4 KB
Wachuko is offline  
Old 10-24-2012, 12:35 PM
  #62  
mozsan
User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: toronto, on
Posts: 50
Default

i've been speaking to a mechanic who tells me that backdating a 964 is much more expensive that using a pre-89 car...does anyone have any experience with this?

those rsr's are amazing....[/QUOTE]

That's what I hear too. Therefore it seems one's better off with a shop with actual 964 backdating experience. We don't want to get into "unpredictable" man hours!! I bought my '91 in May with the sole intention of backdating, and still dragging my feet as don't have a clear picture.
mozsan is offline  
Old 10-24-2012, 02:50 PM
  #63  
cuse92
User
 
cuse92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: London
Posts: 242
Default

Originally Posted by mozsan View Post
i've been speaking to a mechanic who tells me that backdating a 964 is much more expensive that using a pre-89 car...does anyone have any experience with this?

those rsr's are amazing....
That's what I hear too. Therefore it seems one's better off with a shop with actual 964 backdating experience. We don't want to get into "unpredictable" man hours!! I bought my '91 in May with the sole intention of backdating, and still dragging my feet as don't have a clear picture.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it is a complete pain and costs much more. There are a number of areas that need more attention in the 964s to get the look right, like the sills (which are much bigger on 964) and shark fins, you need front fender extensions/new front fenders to work with the bonnet and new bumper, on the rear you need to work around the rear spoiler, etc. basically every body panel except the doors and the roof need work. Wheel size and offset is also an issue.
cuse92 is offline  
Old 10-24-2012, 07:46 PM
  #64  
Rephlex
User
 
Rephlex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Herts, UK
Posts: 942
Default

Originally Posted by philt68 View Post
this month's evo has an article on singer, where they basically cover the entire car in drooling saliva...but the singer people say the 964 is the perfect car for backdating-still the old shape, but with a great engine/chassis/gearbox...

sadly, they don't reveal their panel source...
Article states the Singer panels are custom manufactured by http://www.aria-group.com/
Rephlex is offline  
Old 10-24-2012, 10:32 PM
  #65  
SuperUser
User
 
SuperUser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: ATL- North
Posts: 1,980
Default

The front trunk where the batter and spare tire also need to be sorted out. It is lower in the 964 so you will see it hanging below the front bumper. You can cut it back in a wedge shape or add a lower lip to the bumper.
SuperUser is offline  
Old 10-24-2012, 11:22 PM
  #66  
pcarhiway
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
pcarhiway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 668
Default Backdating using an 86 Carrera

911Dave on this board. Porschenut on Pelican did this amazing backdate between 2009 and 2011. Here is his build thread from Pelican,

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-backdate.html

Jager (Curve Lover) from the 993 forum caught these photos at the Parade this year in SLC.

I was lucky enough to purchase this car from 911Dave and I can tell you after two months and about 3000 miles it is the most enjoyable of all of the various 911s I have owned over the years - G50s to most recently a 98 C4S.

The backdate was done by welding in a longhood bulkhead and then using steel hood and fenders from a 72. Only the bumpers and decklid are FG.

Lightweight interior and other weight saving tricks have the car at 2350 lbs, the 3.2 liter is putting out close to 220 hp, so it runs out real nicely.

The wheels are Fuchs that were originally black centers that were refinished by Harvey Weidman using his RSR style finish.

Paint color is Oslo Blue, a 356 color from 1962. Digital cameras have a hard time picking up the correct color, in person there is a hint of dark turquoise in Oslo Blue.
Attached Images      
pcarhiway is offline  
Old 10-24-2012, 11:37 PM
  #67  
mozsan
User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: toronto, on
Posts: 50
Default

...not based on 964 though, however beautiful it is.
mozsan is offline  
Old 10-24-2012, 11:54 PM
  #68  
mozsan
User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: toronto, on
Posts: 50
Default

to quote the ZH guys on the subject of "how much a C2 to RSR backdate would cost ?" back in 2006:

"well, the exterior RSR backdate is 74.4 hours - doing a good job grafting an early front panel (with correct bumper mounts), removing/filling all the 964 rocker indentations/holes, shortening the jack points, removing the rear bumper mounts and modifying the frame for proper e arly bumper mounting arrangement, welding/filling the sunroof, properly attaching 930 flares, modifying the leading edge of the early front fenders, modifying the factory rear bumpers to follow the contour of the 930 flares, modifying the decklid hinges to accept the early decklid."
mozsan is offline  
Old 10-25-2012, 12:41 AM
  #69  
pcarhiway
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
pcarhiway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 668
Default Other retro ideas

Originally Posted by mozsan View Post
...not based on 964 though, however beautiful it is.

I realize it is not a 964. See Post #61 (Magnus Walker 72 STR) above, there have been many other retro ideas already posted on this thread

Last edited by pcarhiway; 10-25-2012 at 01:08 AM.
pcarhiway is offline  
Old 10-25-2012, 01:38 AM
  #70  
mozsan
User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: toronto, on
Posts: 50
Default

pcarhiway, the car is outrite gorgeous, and thank you for posting the "not-for-the-faint-at-heart" pics.

It's just that I'm maybe too focussed on my 964 backdate project !!
mozsan is offline  
Old 10-25-2012, 04:51 AM
  #71  
cuse92
User
 
cuse92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: London
Posts: 242
Default

Originally Posted by SuperUser View Post
The front trunk where the batter and spare tire also need to be sorted out. It is lower in the 964 so you will see it hanging below the front bumper. You can cut it back in a wedge shape or add a lower lip to the bumper.
Yup, forgot that. The front 1/4 of the wheel well on mine is cut out - spare tyre still fits but jack doesn't...
cuse92 is offline  
Old 10-25-2012, 11:36 AM
  #72  
911Jetta
Addict
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
911Jetta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NC
Posts: 6,329
Default

I love the debate.
If I were backdating my car...I'd be tempted to go the RSR route...big fenders and 9x17 & 11/17 Fuchs please!

Here's a copy of an old Excellence article:
Attached Images       
911Jetta is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 12:36 PM
  #73  
911Jetta
Addict
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
911Jetta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NC
Posts: 6,329
Default

OK, now for a couple interior details:
-Retro
-Minimalistic
-Lightweight
-Bits borrowed from other Porsches.
-Interesting interior ideas










911Jetta is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 12:36 PM
  #74  
911Jetta
Addict
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
911Jetta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NC
Posts: 6,329
Default










911Jetta is offline  
Old 10-26-2012, 12:37 PM
  #75  
911Jetta
Addict
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
911Jetta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NC
Posts: 6,329
Default










911Jetta is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Longhood Friday: 964 backdates and other retro ideas


Contact Us About Us Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: