Wachuko

Ohhhhhh.... Dear Santa alright!

mozsan

i've been speaking to a mechanic who tells me that backdating a 964 is much more expensive that using a pre-89 car...does anyone have any experience with this?

those rsr's are amazing....[/QUOTE]

That's what I hear too. Therefore it seems one's better off with a shop with actual 964 backdating experience. We don't want to get into "unpredictable" man hours!! I bought my '91 in May with the sole intention of backdating, and still dragging my feet as don't have a clear picture.

cuse92

That's what I hear too. Therefore it seems one's better off with a shop with actual 964 backdating experience. We don't want to get into "unpredictable" man hours!! I bought my '91 in May with the sole intention of backdating, and still dragging my feet as don't have a clear picture.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it is a complete pain and costs much more. There are a number of areas that need more attention in the 964s to get the look right, like the sills (which are much bigger on 964) and shark fins, you need front fender extensions/new front fenders to work with the bonnet and new bumper, on the rear you need to work around the rear spoiler, etc. basically every body panel except the doors and the roof need work. Wheel size and offset is also an issue.

Rephlex

Article states the Singer panels are custom manufactured by http://www.aria-group.com/

SuperUser

The front trunk where the batter and spare tire also need to be sorted out. It is lower in the 964 so you will see it hanging below the front bumper. You can cut it back in a wedge shape or add a lower lip to the bumper.

pcarhiway

911Dave on this board. Porschenut on Pelican did this amazing backdate between 2009 and 2011. Here is his build thread from Pelican,

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-backdate.html

Jager (Curve Lover) from the 993 forum caught these photos at the Parade this year in SLC.

I was lucky enough to purchase this car from 911Dave and I can tell you after two months and about 3000 miles it is the most enjoyable of all of the various 911s I have owned over the years - G50s to most recently a 98 C4S.

The backdate was done by welding in a longhood bulkhead and then using steel hood and fenders from a 72. Only the bumpers and decklid are FG.

Lightweight interior and other weight saving tricks have the car at 2350 lbs, the 3.2 liter is putting out close to 220 hp, so it runs out real nicely.

The wheels are Fuchs that were originally black centers that were refinished by Harvey Weidman using his RSR style finish.

Paint color is Oslo Blue, a 356 color from 1962. Digital cameras have a hard time picking up the correct color, in person there is a hint of dark turquoise in Oslo Blue.

mozsan

...not based on 964 though, however beautiful it is.

mozsan

to quote the ZH guys on the subject of "how much a C2 to RSR backdate would cost ?" back in 2006:

"well, the exterior RSR backdate is 74.4 hours - doing a good job grafting an early front panel (with correct bumper mounts), removing/filling all the 964 rocker indentations/holes, shortening the jack points, removing the rear bumper mounts and modifying the frame for proper e arly bumper mounting arrangement, welding/filling the sunroof, properly attaching 930 flares, modifying the leading edge of the early front fenders, modifying the factory rear bumpers to follow the contour of the 930 flares, modifying the decklid hinges to accept the early decklid."

pcarhiway

I realize it is not a 964. See Post #61 (Magnus Walker 72 STR) above, there have been many other retro ideas already posted on this thread

mozsan

pcarhiway, the car is outrite gorgeous, and thank you for posting the "not-for-the-faint-at-heart" pics.

It's just that I'm maybe too focussed on my 964 backdate project !!

cuse92

Yup, forgot that. The front 1/4 of the wheel well on mine is cut out - spare tyre still fits but jack doesn't...

911Jetta

I love the debate.
If I were backdating my car...I'd be tempted to go the RSR route...big fenders and 9x17 & 11/17 Fuchs please!

Here's a copy of an old Excellence article:

911Jetta

OK, now for a couple interior details:
-Retro
-Minimalistic
-Lightweight
-Bits borrowed from other Porsches.
-Interesting interior ideas

911Jetta

911Jetta