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Wachuko 06-19-2010 03:04 PM

Shift linkage bushing
 
Has anyone been able to find just the bushings for 964-424-011-01 and 928-424-005-01 (#15 and #16 in the diagram)?? Both bushings are gone in my car...

I need to call Sunset in case they have the part for less... Pelican Parts has it for US$130.50 and US$88.00 and my car need both ends... :banghead:

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/shifter_diagram.jpg

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...842400501-M100

What the one in my car looks like...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc03034_small.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc03035_small.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc03038_small.jpg

Car is still stuck in second... so much for an easy fix. :banghead:

Wachuko 06-19-2010 03:59 PM

Well... like I said, it looks like it is a bit more complicated than just the shift linkage...

The shifting shaft is hard to move...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc03033_small.jpg

I was able to pull it out with the help of a pry bar... so it is now in neutral, but that shaft should be easy to move...

Clutch disengages fine... but I can't move that shifting shaft with my hands...

Guys, any thoughts??

Fig 1.
http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/shift_control.jpg

Fig 2.

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/tr...st_housing.jpg

Wachuko 06-19-2010 04:05 PM

I am going to work with the engine carrier to see if I can break something else... :grr:

crg53 06-19-2010 06:29 PM

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Hi Jaime, you can replace both ends of the shift rod with HEIM JOINTS, then remove the ball at the end of the gearshift lever (part #1 ) and also the ball on part #24, then fasten the rod with bolts through the heim joints. VOILA! you have a new setup for a fraction of the cost.

:cheers:

Wachuko 06-19-2010 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by crg53 (Post 7670758)
Hi Jaime, you can replace both ends of the shift rod with HEIM JOINTS, then remove the ball at the end of the gearshift lever (part #1 ) and also the ball on part #24, then fasten the rod with bolts through the heim joints. VOILA! you have a new setup for a fraction of the cost.

:cheers:

You welded one of the ends in place? I can see doing that easily on one side, but the other side does not have a bolted end...

Great idea if I can make it work :thumbup:

slips2 06-19-2010 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Wachuko (Post 7670487)
Has anyone been able to find just the bushings for 964-424-011-01 and 928-424-005-01 (#15 and #16 in the diagram)?? Both bushings are gone in my car...

I need to call Sunset in case they have the part for less... Pelican Parts has it for US$130.50 and US$88.00 and my car need both ends... :banghead:

I just replaced both shift linkage ball cup bushings in my '90 964, part #928-116-145-03, about $12 each from Pelican. Mine looked similar to yours, as if whatever lube was originally used degraded the bushing material and turned it into a light-brown custard. I used a dab of non-petroleum based, synthetic grease inside each bushing cup for lube, which should not attack the bushing material.

Wachuko 06-19-2010 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by slips2 (Post 7670820)
I just replaced both shift linkage ball cup bushings in my '90 964, part #928-116-145-03, about $12 each from Pelican. Mine looked similar to yours, as if whatever lube was originally used degraded the bushing material and turned it into a light-brown custard. I used a dab of non-petroleum based, synthetic grease inside each bushing cup for lube, which should not attack the bushing material.

THANK YOU!!! :thumbsup: Order placed.

altarchsa 06-19-2010 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by crg53 (Post 7670758)
Hi Jaime, you can replace both ends of the shift rod with HEIM JOINTS, then remove the ball at the end of the gearshift lever (part #1 ) and also the ball on part #24, then fasten the rod with bolts through the heim joints. VOILA! you have a new setup for a fraction of the cost.

:cheers:

What a great idea!

I think the heim joint would be better than the original in function, and it shouldn't be that hard to drill out those ball fittings.

I've been in there twice. The first time I just "fabricated" a bushing out of nylon to fit down into the housing that holds the front bushing. I used a tie wrap just to make sure it didn't completely separate, just in case it failed. It held up and worked fine until recently, when one of our generous Rennlist friends gave me the entire linkage for free. It had a brand new front bushing attached, and I used it to replace my home made fix. BTW, I have the linkage if anyone needs parts.

Wachuco, it looks like the seal on the trans at the linkage is missing. Did you remove it to try to free up the shaft? If not, and it has been missing for a while, you may have gotten some corrosion in there that tightened things up. Tried and true WD40???

altarchsa 06-19-2010 07:22 PM

BTW Wachuco, I believe I have part 15 , but I don't think the bushing is any good.

Wachuko 06-19-2010 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by altarchsa (Post 7670849)
Wachuko, it looks like the seal on the trans at the linkage is missing. Did you remove it to try to free up the shaft? If not, and it has been missing for a while, you may have gotten some corrosion in there that tightened things up. Tried and true WD40???

I think the seal is still there... the seal is the green ring you see in the photo around the shaft.

I hope just WD40 fixes that... I am worried it could be something worse like a synchro or something stuck further in...

crg53 06-19-2010 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by Wachuko (Post 7670794)
You welded one of the ends in place? I can see doing that easily on one side, but the other side does not have a bolted end...

Great idea if I can make it work :thumbup:

You will need to cut one end off, and weld on a HD nut, same thread as the heim joint.
This is not my invention, found it here on Rennlist, but looks like a great way to fix it.

:cheers:

Wachuko 06-19-2010 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by crg53 (Post 7671072)
You will need to cut one end off, and weld on a HD nut, same thread as the heim joint.
This is not my invention, found it here on Rennlist, but looks like a great way to fix it.

:cheers:

Good to know. I ended ordering the bushings.

What worries me now is the shifting shaft... hope is as easy as WD-40 to get it to loosen up... I can't afford transmission work at this time, and not something I know how to work with anyway, so I will have to pay a shop for this.

crg53 06-19-2010 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by Wachuko (Post 7671148)
Good to know. I ended ordering the bushings.

What worries me now is the shifting shaft... hope is as easy as WD-40 to get it to loosen up... I can't afford transmission work at this time, and not something I know how to work with anyway, so I will have to pay a shop for this.

Jaime, instead of WD40 (water displacent #40) which is a temporary fix at best, try a good lubricant, there are many out there; I like a product called INOX, no affiliation, but it is by far the best stuff around, look up the distibutor list and find the Florida dealer.

:cheers:

Wachuko 06-19-2010 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by crg53 (Post 7671254)
Jaime, instead of WD40 (water displacent #40) which is a temporary fix at best, try a good lubricant, there are many out there; I like a product called INOX, no affiliation, but it is by far the best stuff around, look up the distibutor list and find the Florida dealer.

:cheers:

Looks like the local boat dealer and Harley Davidson dealer has them. Will get some tomorrow. Thank you.

AOW162435 06-20-2010 01:23 PM

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Jamie,
Looks like you've got the 928 part number for the inserts - that's certainly the most economical route.

I made a similar setup to what Steen posted, and have used it for a few years with fantastic results. The shift action immediately became crisper and more "mechanical". I paired my creation with a factory RS shift rod - #12 in your shifter diagram.

Here are a few pics of my creation:


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RS shift rod:


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Andreas


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