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Old 04-20-2010, 11:58 PM
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I am replacing the pads in my 964 and was contemplating OEM in the rear and Pagids up front to save a couple of hundred bucks but improve stopping power. Can you mix and match these without problems and if so what color should I go with? I was thinking yellows based on the attached graphic but??? I assume more grip in front is better than the back?

http://www.paragon-products.com/Pagi...1203-pagid.htm
Old 04-21-2010, 12:10 AM
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I have no first hand knowledge on this, but I would not mix pads since the biasing is already set. I would imagine the putting different pads on would effect the biasing.

Since I have never tried this others with first hand experence may have a different opinion.
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Pagid Yellow pads are for track driving where the brakes see extreme conditions, i.e. repeated, hard braking with little rest. The problem with using them on the street is that you first need to warm them up before they can work effectively. On a cold morning, you could actually back out of your driveway and slide right into traffic if you're not paying attention.

As for bias, the front brakes already provide more braking force than the rears. It's not really necessary to try to improve on this. Same pads all around is probably the way to go.
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+1 on yellows being not the right choice for the road. The squealing will also annoy you. The small pads on the rear of your C2 limit the choice of pads you can get so I would stick with OEM.
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Originally Posted by boxsey911
The small pads on the rear of your C2 limit the choice of pads you can get so I would stick with OEM.
93's have the same rear pad as front, do they not? My '90 has the smaller rear size making anything but OEM hard to find.
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FWIW. I'm running Pagid's Street Sport (blue) pads on my car. I'm very happy with them. They are good for street use and the occasional track day.

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Originally Posted by breale01
93's have the same rear pad as front, do they not? My '90 has the smaller rear size making anything but OEM hard to find.
Yes you're right, a 93 should have the 4 pots (I didn't spot that Travis' car was a 93 so thanks for pointing that out to me ). Saying that...we have examples over here where a 93 registered car could have been built a year or two earlier (due to cars not selling during the recession at the time). This can mean that a later registered car still has the earlier 2 pots. One of the reasons I upgraded my 90 to 4 pots was to get over the lack of pad choice I had.
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Thanks all. I do have the 4 pots and I can use the same pads whether back or front. It looks like I'll more than likely go with OEM all the way around but would still be interested if someone has had success doing something a little different. I was hoping to do a couple DEs this year and wanted to set it up as well as can...within reason.
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I just put Hawk brakes in my '92 last weekend (and new rotors and lines and superblue) and so far I love em. My longtime Porsche racing uncle recommended them to me as good street/DE brakes with little dust and no squeal.

I had the OEM pads in there before and the squealing was distracting.
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Travis, truthfully if you have intentions of going to a few DE's stock pads are not going to hold up. I'm using Porterfield R4 pads and am quite happy with them as a dual purpose track/street pad. They are easy on the rotors, hold up well on track and work quite well cold for the street.

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Travis:
For street driving try the Hawk HPS. Good pad, not a lot of dust and they are not noisy. I have been happy with them. It is a street pad, but you can feel the difference between the HPS and the OE pads. If the car is primarily used for street driving, I would not put a race pad on the car.

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Noob here. Looking at purchasing a 964 to supplement wife's '04 Cayenne S. To the point I replaced OEM w/ Hawk HPS, on the Cayenne and neither my wife nor I notice a performance difference. I realize this is a different animal, but Hawk's seem to hold up well for city/suburb traffic and occasional highway blasts.
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Originally Posted by Carrera51
Travis:
For street driving try the Hawk HPS. Good pad, not a lot of dust and they are not noisy. I have been happy with them. It is a street pad, but you can feel the difference between the HPS and the OE pads. If the car is primarily used for street driving, I would not put a race pad on the car.

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+1 - used to have Hawk HPS and they worked out well except that on the track I ended up with significant rotor grooving. Please check my previous threads on the topic. Also agree with everything that was said above on the Pagid yellows. Not a good choice if you plan on non-track use. I have switched back to OEM pads and I am very happy with them (I have the 993TT big brake kit).



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