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Old 01-02-2010, 06:57 AM
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hi all
has anyone done a conversion from a tip to a manual or does anyone know if its possible and what is involved?
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:06 AM
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I do not know much about the 964 conversion, but in the Mercedes world, engine mounts and every bushing is different between the manual and automatic-transmission cars. Engine mount and bushing compliance are tuned to minimize NVH, and you risk having a buzz box if they are not the correct parts.

There are also differences in the engine controls. The interior pieces are non-trivial to change over as well. If the 964 is engineered anything like a Mercedes, it will be a real bear to make the change properly.
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:07 AM
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Oh no you don't! Get back out there and sort out our 'limp' mode problem.

On a more serious note though, the swap over sounds quite involved (there are
a few accounts on here and Pelican) and secondhand gearboxes are quite rare
and expensive. Most people will suggest selling the whole car and buying a
manual model as the most economically viable route.

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Read the latest Excellence (or was it last month), where the writer went through this exact transformation. He found it easier than expected. Then again, everyone told him it was next to impossible.
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Old 01-02-2010, 05:44 PM
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Hello Karlos & RonCT

I'm also interested in this subject.
Altough I can't buy this magazine here locally.

Do you guys or anyone here on the forum have got a copy or a scanned version on this subject

If anyone here can help me you can sent it at: [email protected]

Thanks already
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:59 PM
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Can't scan and post, that's illegal. And Pete Stout is a great guy and a member here at RennList. Doing so would also violate the terms of use of this forum. Here's the section from the rules post:

Copyright Materials: You may not post any copyrighted material that you do not have rights to. Please link to external articles rather than post them in the forums. Posting or soliciting copyrighted material (Carfax reports for example) is prohibited.

The article may be available online at the Excellence site. Anyone in the world can order a back issue, find out how at their website.
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I also read the article, it goes against the common advice of selling the tip and buying a manual. I applaud the guy that did the conversion, his dedication paid off.

Here's parts list off Excellence's web site: http://www.excellence-mag.com/pnl.html
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:57 AM
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Can you verify the tip to manual article is in the dec issue. iam going to order a issue myself. thanks
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Right off the Excellence Back Issue web page:


#178 Nov 2009
2010 Turbo & GT3 RS Preview
356 Speedster vs. Roadster
Ruf Rt12S: The Fastest Factory 911
930 014: The Earliest U.S. Turbo?
Early 911 Tour de France Tribute
The Hispano-Aleman 914-6 Vizcaya
Darren Law's First Le Mans
Justin Newmark: A 14-year-old Racer
Icon: 1975 RSR
964 Tiptronic-to-Manual at Home
Panarama S Manual
String Alignment Explained
Market Update: 914, 986 and 987

http://www.excellence-mag.com/back_issues.php
At the top of the page is the tab for the order form.
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Old 01-03-2010, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jim_l View Post
Can you verify the tip to manual article is in the dec issue. iam going to order a issue myself. thanks
it is the Nov. issue ("Tip to Six" swap in of a 993 6 sp.)
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For those of your familiar w/ the cars, article, and/or process, would the conversion parts included in this listing work on a 964, or just a 993?
http://www.ladismantler.com/index.ph...em&inv_id=1019
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