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Old 09-08-2009, 11:58 AM
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So I have been trying to sell my car for 6 months or so. Job cut backs is forcing sale so I really do need to sell the car. The best offers (serious/with cash) seem to be around $13,500. I know the tiptronic is slowing the sale down a bit but man the market seems soft right now. Should I be happy for that and let her go ....I do need to sell unfortunately. 1991 C2 with tip and 98,800 mile in Amazon Green.
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wow- if the market is that soft we're all in trouble. I'd have thought higher. Problem is people don't typically view these cars as daily drivers; they see them as expensive!
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I sure hope its worth more then that as mine also is a 91 TIP. With the market these days its real hard to tell. I have been seeing 993's in the high teens and low 20's so it is pretty much a across the board drop.
Old 09-08-2009, 12:33 PM
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Buyer's perspective, here - I have been looking for the right car to buy, and haven't yet found the one in the color and option combo that I want. What's weird is, prices are all over the place...

... some people believe that each nut and bolt on their particular very standard (non-RSA, that is) 964 is electromagnetically coated with a rare and thus very expensive element that can only be collected from the clouds of the swirling storms in the red eye of Jupiter - therefore, they're asking in the mid-20's for 100k+ mile 964's that are quite clean, yes... but I think you'll agree that pricing like that is completely unrealistic, especially given the soft market that you describe. However, they won't budge, and so they won't ever sell their cars, I'm sure. Very frustrating.

The other end of the spectrum is that there are some very cheaply-priced 964's out there, listed in the $13-14k range - I think that this sort of pricing actually could scare buyers away... because surely there must be something wrong with a $13k 964, right...? Now, having also looked at some of those cheaper 964's, I will say that they have generally not been in good overall condition (LOTS of oil leaks...), and none of them had any service records to speak of (a receipt for washer fluid doesn't count, to me).

So it's a Catch-22.

I personally would advertise the car for what you want for it (and what you believe it's worth). That way people will understand that you recognize what the car is worth, truly - and then I would emphasize that you're negotiable, which demonstrates that you recognize the market is soft. And I would do everything you can to describe the servce records and maintenance the car has seen. As a buyer, I know that the thing I want the MOST when buying a used 964 is service history!

Truth is, banks are not lending - not for houses for people to live in, and certainly not for not-yet-classic 20-year old toy cars to play with on the weekends. So you have to be an all- or mostly-cash buyer --- and people are afraid to drop that kind of cash nowadays, with the job situation being as shaky as it is.

Whether or not you should sell your car for $13.5k is a decision only you can make. It's definitely a very very reasonable price for a clean 964.

Best of luck!
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Originally Posted by GoKart
....So it's a Catch-22....
I am helping a friend shop for a 993, and posted on the 993 board. I got some leads, but the situation is similar for 993s: asking prices are well north of $30 K and sellers do not seem negotiable unless the car has problems.

He has cash and would is willing to consider a late (92-up) 964, coupe only, manual only, C2 only, no collision history, garaged, below 100 K miles, no issues, and located in the southeastern USA (within striking distance of Atlanta GA).

Any leads? I am tempted to sell him my car, and pick up a bargain-priced GT3, but those are in Catch-22 as well.

Watching and waiting.....
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Thanks for the responses. I agree something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I had a buy it now price of $15,000 at which I was willing to sell at, so $1500 difference to move the car and make my life a little easier right now is a deal I will do. I have other mouths to feed and more important responsibilities than a weekend toy......I will be back.
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Man....are you having to sell everything ?? even the Ducati ??
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Originally Posted by kevbolacy
Man....are you having to sell everything ?? even the Ducati ??
Sad but true....Ducati sold last year. North East Ohio manufactoring industry ...what else can I say?
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Originally Posted by kevbolacy
Man....are you having to sell everything ?? even the Ducati ??
Sad but true....Ducati sold last year. North East Ohio manufactoring industry ...what else can I say?
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I know lots of people buying now really want a manual and I would not even consider a tip wen I was looking. If it is going to be a toy and drive on weekend then I want a manual. That is just my opinion.
Old 09-08-2009, 03:04 PM
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+1 on tiptronic, when I was looking for my 964 I had the chance to buy a Tip - same year as mine but with lesser mileage than my C2 and I opted for the manual....don´t regret it at all
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its the tip that is killing it
beautiful car
Old 09-08-2009, 07:50 PM
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Good luck with the sale...I was told by a friend and avid car collector that every car you buy you must know how you are going to get out of it. because the day always comes when you are going to sell either to upgrade or out of need. I guess the TIP just makes it harder.

In any event, best of luck, I really hope it works out for you!
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I agree with the statements reflecting that the tip tranny is making this car less valuable than a similarly equipped manual car.
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+1 on the tip.


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