AWD performance characteristics in the C4
Having owned a C2 and really getting used to the handling the car had to offer, moving up to the C4 i'm not really sure what to expect. How much of a noticable difference is the feel of the car(especially in an autocross situation)?? AWD cars are also known to be stoplight warriors but I can't imagine these are the dump-the-clutch at 5K RPM kind of cars... I guess i'm just trying to get an idea of what kind of feel to expect(aggressive understeer/Great grip on acceleration?)
Thanks for any input! Rob |
Understeer, with a capital U.
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Originally Posted by centerpunch
Understeer, with a capital U.
what can be done to correct that?? The car i'm picking up currently has h&r's, bilstein's and an adjustable front sway bar along with pilot cup sports.. I'm sure the tires would help but those wont be on the car long(they're on the D90s) |
Put larger tires up front - 225's
Change the rear sway bar to a 21 or 22mm Lower it to ROW settings Change to 17" wheels and lower the rear pressure to 36psi |
Originally Posted by dfinnegan
Put larger tires up front - 225's
Change the rear sway bar to a 21 or 22mm Lower it to ROW settings Change to 17" wheels and lower the rear pressure to 36psi would 18s compromise the handling of the car?? |
Originally Posted by 74carreraturbo
would 18s compromise the handling of the car??
I don't know. I do know that 18's are not officially supported on 964's. Folks run them, but Porsche never qualified them. It's a bit of a debate as to whether it's wise to run them on a 964. |
Originally Posted by centerpunch
Understeer, with a capital U.
If you set it up properly, and learn how to drive it properly, it is a fantastic handling car. It is definitely different than a rear wheel drive car which is what I enjoy. I've raced my C4 for two years, and absolutely love it. It oversteers quite readily and predictably which is why I like it. I have another C4 that I drive on the street which is also a fantastic handling car. There are numerous threads in this forum that discuss the handling characteristics of the C4 and how to influence them via setup and/or driving style. |
I found the 225s up front and a strut brace up front made all the difference in the world.
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All the set up stuff mentioned and sort the 4 wheel alignment. Start with the RS setup and move from there.
I guess you have tried a test drive ?C2 and C4 are different . I preffered the C4 ! Geoff |
Are you saying to run 225 50 16 up front? Do I use the stock 16" front rims on the front with these larger tires? If I do that, the profile of the front and rear will be different since the front rim is narrower?
Or, are you talking about 17" rims where a 245 would be used in the rear and a 225 in front? Thanks! |
You need 17" wheels
225/45 at the front -- See if the car has the steering stops upgraded to 10MM to prevent rubbing or put 5MM spacers 255/40 at the rear |
I was waiting for you to reply Garrett. Spot on advice as always. ;-)
Originally Posted by garrett376
Well, if you have a stock C4, that will likely be the case. Relatively speaking a stock C2 can be an understeering pig as well.
If you set it up properly, and learn how to drive it properly, it is a fantastic handling car. It is definitely different than a rear wheel drive car which is what I enjoy. I've raced my C4 for two years, and absolutely love it. It oversteers quite readily and predictably which is why I like it. I have another C4 that I drive on the street which is also a fantastic handling car. There are numerous threads in this forum that discuss the handling characteristics of the C4 and how to influence them via setup and/or driving style. |
Originally Posted by kgorman
I was waiting for you to reply Garrett. Spot on advice as always. ;-)
Noah |
You may also want to check these articles out...
http://www.porsche964.co.uk/rev_rep/excellence.htm I believe many Rennlister have used it as a resource. |
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