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Old 11-22-2006, 02:03 PM
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I am looking at the Turbo "s" Air ducts from MASHAW, wanted to see what everyones opinion was. Is it worth the expense for the lights?

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Old 11-22-2006, 02:28 PM
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I like mine sans lights. Before - After.

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i want some with lights
Old 11-22-2006, 03:15 PM
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I had a converstaion with Mike Shaw about these parts and kind of think that I would not want them. No disrespect to him or his parts but the lights are only about 35 watts, have no provision for aiming, and to me have too small an opening. It just seemed that too much is trying to be crammed into the space available.
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How much mod work (cutting) did you have to do on the ducts? Did you install the brake cooling kit? Both of your cars look great!
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How much mod work (cutting) did you have to do on the ducts? Did you install the brake cooling kit?
You have to cut a hold in the plastic behind the fog lamp to route a hose through, and cut a hole in the aluminum behind the plastic wheel well cover on the passenger side (easy) and in the steel plate on the drivers side (more challenging).

Putting the ducts in by themselves allows more air to get to the oil cooler and a/c condensor, where it's not really needed. If you're going to go to the trouble to install the ducts, suggest you install the hose to get the air to the wheel well. Brake cooling on 964's isn't a strong point, so anything that helps get cooling air in the vicinity of the rotors is a plus. This is really relevant for cars that are tracked. I wouldn't worry as much about rotor cooling on the street (I might still remove the stone shield to expose the rotor to more air).
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Personally I went for the simple (read cheap) ducts. I didn't seriously entertain the Techart ones with lights due to the costs. Mine don't have the pipes but have some black wire mesh which finishes them off and stops stones flying in (although apparently nothing delicate sits behind). You can see mine in my avatar.
Old 11-22-2006, 07:41 PM
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Who makes the ducts that doesn't have the screw showing?? They all look the same but when you pay attention, there are few different ones on the market.
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Originally Posted by Bill Gregory
You have to cut a hold in the plastic behind the fog lamp to route a hose through, and cut a hole in the aluminum behind the plastic wheel well cover on the passenger side (easy) and in the steel plate on the drivers side (more challenging).

Putting the ducts in by themselves allows more air to get to the oil cooler and a/c condensor, where it's not really needed. If you're going to go to the trouble to install the ducts, suggest you install the hose to get the air to the wheel well. Brake cooling on 964's isn't a strong point, so anything that helps get cooling air in the vicinity of the rotors is a plus. This is really relevant for cars that are tracked. I wouldn't worry as much about rotor cooling on the street (I might still remove the stone shield to expose the rotor to more air).
Bill, Thank you. Is there a brake cooling kit in particular that you recommend?
Old 11-23-2006, 12:06 AM
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Marc, our fearless moderator, has the slickest set of ducts/lights that are out.... I'm sure he'll pop in and flash a pic!
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I like w/o lights as well. A pic of my car is below. I carved up the stock bumperettes to cover up the screw hole on the ducts. They were functional for the brakes when I used to track the car but now they just help get air to the oil cooler & A/C condensor
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Originally Posted by JW in Texas
I like w/o lights as well. A pic of my car is below. I carved up the stock bumperettes to cover up the screw hole on the ducts. They were functional for the brakes when I used to track the car but now they just help get air to the oil cooler & A/C condensor
JW in Texas, Wow your car is beautiful! I love the color! The Bumperette is a nice touch. Thanks for the info.
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+1 on that. JW that is a sweat, sweat ride.
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Originally Posted by Bill Gregory
You have to cut a hold in the plastic behind the fog lamp to route a hose through, and cut a hole in the aluminum behind the plastic wheel well cover on the passenger side (easy) and in the steel plate on the drivers side (more challenging).

Putting the ducts in by themselves allows more air to get to the oil cooler and a/c condensor, where it's not really needed. If you're going to go to the trouble to install the ducts, suggest you install the hose to get the air to the wheel well. Brake cooling on 964's isn't a strong point, so anything that helps get cooling air in the vicinity of the rotors is a plus. This is really relevant for cars that are tracked. I wouldn't worry as much about rotor cooling on the street (I might still remove the stone shield to expose the rotor to more air).
I cannot speak for any car other than a euro spec 964RS but on mine, there is no problem with cooling of the rotors in standard set up. How do I know? Because I have tested them on the track using temperature sensitive paint. It was 2 years ago and I will have to look up what temperatures were actually reached but I do remember that they were within the range of the pads I was using and there wasn't so much heat soak as to "boil" the fluid.

The downside of ducting is that it throws all sorts of dirt, stones etc into one place you don't want it. I wouldn't cut holes for ducts unless you were trying to solve a specific problem your car was suffering from that a change of fluid or pad cannot sort.


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