Morty

There is a "clubsport"-version of this car for sale in Germany (at EUR 155k!!!!!):

http://www.germansportscars.de/shoper.html

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kusee pee

What a machine! The RS3.8 takes my vote for THE best 911 all day long. Do you think they'll take an offer? I was thinking of putting down a 10% deposit - then they wouldn't see me for dust...!

Geoffrey

The 3.8RSR uses the narrow body rear suspension, not the turbo suspension. It is basically a factory version of what I did to my car.

JasonAndreas

It might possibly be covered in the November 2003 issue of 911 & Porsche World? It was definitely a street-driven car (in Australia?) but I can't remember if it was a motorsports conversion.

Adrian

Jason,
FVD were offering Kevlar parts for the 964 from around 96 or 97. If the claim was that it was delivered by Weissach as new (in 1993) with a Kevlar lid then that is false. I think I know the RS 3.8 you are talking about, it's a white one I believe? One of two claimed original RHD versions? As I always say; "show me the papers".
Ciao,
Adrian.

Cuppie

Is this the same as the RSR?

Upietz's Porsche Sport '93 confirms ally doors and bonnet.

All quoted figures above stack up, but claims 325bhp

GG Allin

Here's the local one that I mentioned. I'm not sure if this one was ever street legal, certainly not in the U.S.

jfl503

YUM.

Cupcar

Didn't the RS 3.8 also have aluminum fenders and doors that Turbo did not have?

Cupcar

Here are some pictures I took of a 3.8 RS in 1993 at tje Porsche Europa Sternfahrt which was the factory's 30th birthday for the 911. Picture was taken at the Ludwigsburg Castle car show that started the party...

Adrian

Sorry for the delay in replying, but thanks to a bright spark in Northern Germany and a Norwegian Cruise ship the entire European electrical grid was disrupted and for us all this way down south ended up with many trashed ISPs. Scary situation really.
Anyway I am not aware of any RS or RSR that left Weissach with Aluminium fenders in the 964 series. Whilst the Alu doors are included in the parts catalogue with their own part number the front lid and fenders are listed as "Basis 3.6L Carrera RS". Many of these RSs and RSRs nowadays are fitted out well away from their original configuration including using many Kevlar parts. If one is known with Aluminium fenders then I suggest they have been specially made by an aftermarket source. I certainly have never seen one, but there are many still around so who knows what you will find. I know somebody that has a 993RSR that started life as a 993 GT-2.
Ciao,
Adrian.

Gelatomonster

Adrian,

How many 964RS 3.8L are Right Hand Drive?.

Adrian

I have no idea. There is much conflicting information on this subject from none to two so I decided to leave it alone and move on.
Ciao,
Adrian.

NineMeister

I think with cars like this you have to treat each one as an individual case, simply because (as Adrian has intimated) you could more or less order them with most parts from the Porsche Motorsport catalogue.
As supplied in road car spec the body specification was much as a 964RS Lightweight with the obvious turbo width wings (fenders), bumpers, skirts and the signature biplane spoiler. The bonnet (hood) was aluminium and the doors were steel. As Geoffrey mentioned, the front suspension was built with on the turbo wide track bolt positions whereas the rear was stock 964RS with correspondingly wide offset rear Speedlines. As also mentioned the basic engine was a 102 bore 3.75litre on a 993 style mass flow on a production 964RS intake manifold with 300hp. I have seen a couple of cars built to this specification and from memory one of the original press cars in yellow had all these features. I believe you could also order a Clubsport version of the 3.8RS, again to a similar spec as the 964RS CS with the above features.

From here on as Adrian says, it gets complicated as you pick-and-mix from the catalogue, the problem continuing with the race RS-R versions which would have probably been supplied with the latest upgrades at the point of collection.

Adrian

I agree and all these years down the track many stories or as I call them myths emerge. My view is that I believe nothing that strays from the norm unless supported by paperwork.
The internet has become the spreader of myth and legend without regard to the facts. If it's on the internet it must be true.
Every one of these cars and "almost" every other 964 built have their own build spec sheet on record at the Factory. Before shelling out any money I strongly recommend any potential purchaser of claimed Porsche specials, says to the seller; "show me the papers" first.
I know quite a few people who have purchased "special model Porsches" in good faith on what they were told, only to find out the truth later on. Sometimes the Porsche may go through a number of owners before the facts finally emerge. Sometimes it ends in joy, but most times it ends in tears and me getting in the pooh pooh again.
Ciao,
Adrian.

PS: Getting the paperwork for any particular Porsche from model year 1982 onwards is getting easier. It sometimes might seem like pulling teeth, but current owners as long as they have a VIN do have access to their records. You just have keep bugging people and often have to pay to get what you want.