OT - How does a limited mileage insurance policy work?
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OT - How does a limited mileage insurance policy work?
My car is on a limited mileage policy (which unfortunately expires at the start of September) and has been for several years. I've always kept inside the limit - even though I don't think I've ever been asked the mileage when I insure it.
I always assumed that if I needed to claim, they would check the service records / MOT certificates - but that doesn't make sense, because unless the service / MOT coincides exactly with the insurance start they can't possible know whether you have exceeded your limited mileage during the insurance period.
In addition - when I went to the lake district at the weekend, we covered about 1000 miles in total. That's a pretty big chunk of my annual 5K miles - but I wasn't driving all the time.
What exactly stops people taking out 3K mile limited mileage policies, racking up 20K miles a year and then saying : "yeah, but my mate was using it all the time" if they need to make a claim?
I always assumed that if I needed to claim, they would check the service records / MOT certificates - but that doesn't make sense, because unless the service / MOT coincides exactly with the insurance start they can't possible know whether you have exceeded your limited mileage during the insurance period.
In addition - when I went to the lake district at the weekend, we covered about 1000 miles in total. That's a pretty big chunk of my annual 5K miles - but I wasn't driving all the time.
What exactly stops people taking out 3K mile limited mileage policies, racking up 20K miles a year and then saying : "yeah, but my mate was using it all the time" if they need to make a claim?
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I assume it works a lot on trust and the type of individuals involved and if you have two cars the theory is that you can only drive one at once.
When i insured mine last September/October i enquired why the premium was exactly the same as in the previous 12 months and was told it was standard for these types of policies not to change too much. When i asked about reducing the mileage allowance by 2,000 i was told it would make around £15 difference.
When i insured mine last September/October i enquired why the premium was exactly the same as in the previous 12 months and was told it was standard for these types of policies not to change too much. When i asked about reducing the mileage allowance by 2,000 i was told it would make around £15 difference.
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Dave - I have had to certify mileage each year on cars where I had limited mileage (my E30 M3).
I don't think the 'my mate was driving' approach would work; I think they are covering the vehicle for xxx miles, not the driver. If it was stolen and found to be over the mileage, I don't think they'd pay.
Anyway, I'm now with A Manning, and my current policy was LESS than my previous limited mileage policy and I get unlimited mileage, it's not garaged and I get PCGB trackday cover too.
I don't think the 'my mate was driving' approach would work; I think they are covering the vehicle for xxx miles, not the driver. If it was stolen and found to be over the mileage, I don't think they'd pay.
Anyway, I'm now with A Manning, and my current policy was LESS than my previous limited mileage policy and I get unlimited mileage, it's not garaged and I get PCGB trackday cover too.
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Ive been curious about this also;both my 911`s have been on classic policies with limited milage and even after making a claim on my first policy i have never been asked tha cars current or any mileagefor that matter.
I guess that they know i drive a company car and have use of the wifes car im not going to be using it much.
Anyone know whats the "newest car" you can get classic cover on ?
I guess that they know i drive a company car and have use of the wifes car im not going to be using it much.
Anyone know whats the "newest car" you can get classic cover on ?
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If it was stolen and found to be over the mileage, I don't think they'd pay.
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Hi Kevin
£617.40 last year; due for renewal in November. Unlimited mileage, excess of around £500 I think. PCGB trackday cover included, but excess rises to about £2k...still better than no insurance on track...only me to drive, but I've heard that actually increases the premium (depending on who the other driver is I guess!). Daily driver, not garaged.
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£617.40 last year; due for renewal in November. Unlimited mileage, excess of around £500 I think. PCGB trackday cover included, but excess rises to about £2k...still better than no insurance on track...only me to drive, but I've heard that actually increases the premium (depending on who the other driver is I guess!). Daily driver, not garaged.
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I'm with A Manning as well, but with a limited mileage policy (5000 miles). Have to send off a form each year with the current mileage. This cost £415 this year (down by a £100 from last), and includes unlimited ATDO trackdays.
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I don't think the 'my mate was driving' approach would work; I think they are covering the vehicle for xxx miles, not the driver. If it was stolen and found to be over the mileage, I don't think they'd pay.
Perhaps the terms and conditions of the policy state it - although as I said, my insurers don't actually know the mileage of my car anyway.
Rob - I guess your insurance includes NCD since it's daily driver, whereas the limited mileage ones don't.
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I guess it'd be like someone saying they don't smoke on a health insurance form, then getting some form of lung disease that primarily smokers get. It would simply be fraud.
I'd imagine if you had a policy of 3000 miles/year, and you went 3,400 they'd let it slide, but if they found you had gone 10,000 miles in a year and had a claim, I'd think they would have the right to refuse payment on repairs....for their benefit (the business) and other policy holders (who were paying into a pool of insured vehicles driven only 3,000 miles per year and wouldn't want rates to go up based on higher payouts for people driving their cars 10,000 miles a year)
I'd imagine if you had a policy of 3000 miles/year, and you went 3,400 they'd let it slide, but if they found you had gone 10,000 miles in a year and had a claim, I'd think they would have the right to refuse payment on repairs....for their benefit (the business) and other policy holders (who were paying into a pool of insured vehicles driven only 3,000 miles per year and wouldn't want rates to go up based on higher payouts for people driving their cars 10,000 miles a year)
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I agree it's fraud if you genuinely went over and then lied (and I'm not planning to try it) - however, I still think that (legally) they could not refuse to pay.
After all - let's say I do lend it to my mate, don't go over the mileage policy and he crashes. They are not going to pay if I say : "yeah - but I'm within my mileage limit" are they?
After all - let's say I do lend it to my mate, don't go over the mileage policy and he crashes. They are not going to pay if I say : "yeah - but I'm within my mileage limit" are they?
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I believe it is actually illegal to have more than one policy on a car at any one time. Therefore I don't believe two people can have separate policies on the same car.
I used to have limited mileage insurance and like you dave was never asked to verify the mileage.
I am now with Direct Line and keep my car on the street in SE London and have unlimited mileage and pay £450. Fully comp, £450 excess, unlimited window claims etc....Pretty good I thought.
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I used to have limited mileage insurance and like you dave was never asked to verify the mileage.
I am now with Direct Line and keep my car on the street in SE London and have unlimited mileage and pay £450. Fully comp, £450 excess, unlimited window claims etc....Pretty good I thought.
Cheers
Alex
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I believe it is actually illegal to have more than one policy on a car at any one time. Therefore I don't believe two people can have separate policies on the same car.
I don't actually go over my mileage allowance - but I have found it stops me using the car sometimes when I want to. Usually it's times when it would be bad for me to use it anyway (e.g. going 5 miles to work) but I may still get some quotes for unlimited mileage. Can always move the NCD off the daily driver - after all, how expensive can a ford focus really be to insure?
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Three Wheelin'
I've also got a limited mileage policy on a Classic cover. I've just changed company this year (from Carole Nash to A-Plan) and have never been asked to confirm mileage. I saw A-Plan advertised on Pistonheads and I was pleased with their offer. 6000 mpa (compared to 5K with CN), only a £250 XS (£500 with CN), included legal benefits and a premium of only £349. No track day cover although I didn't need it. Agreed value as with CN and just had to give them 6 photos + valuation from the OPC.
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Dave
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Dave