I'm sooo tempted...while the engine is out
03-16-2006, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by seaeagle
Not so long ago, about a week, a good natured Kiwi ridiculoulsy asked should he trade the 3.6 turbo. Roundly criticised he was, justifiably so.
Now the perrenial question, to supercharge or not. To me, buy a turbo set to go.
But its your money so if the SC is the choice I say have a go. But can you please do it well and let us know how it went. Because I am confused by all the talk some say yeah, some say no. All I know is I can spend the money on a newer model and/or with a turbo etc. and get similar results. But supercharging has been around a long long time. So it must have something going for it.
But I do like the oft quoted "crackling" roar of an air cooled flat 6.
Is there a reason why air cooled went out of fashion? Was it noise or was it technology, ie it just had to be water cooled to keep up the the competition?
No one has really answered that one for me in simple terms that a simpleton like me can understand.
Sea Eagle
Now the perrenial question, to supercharge or not. To me, buy a turbo set to go.
But its your money so if the SC is the choice I say have a go. But can you please do it well and let us know how it went. Because I am confused by all the talk some say yeah, some say no. All I know is I can spend the money on a newer model and/or with a turbo etc. and get similar results. But supercharging has been around a long long time. So it must have something going for it.
But I do like the oft quoted "crackling" roar of an air cooled flat 6.
Is there a reason why air cooled went out of fashion? Was it noise or was it technology, ie it just had to be water cooled to keep up the the competition?
No one has really answered that one for me in simple terms that a simpleton like me can understand.
Sea Eagle
Anyways if I do it, I will definitely let everyone know AND a keep a Rennlist running report
03-16-2006, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by seaeagle
Not so long ago, about a week, a good natured Kiwi ridiculoulsy asked should he trade the 3.6 turbo. Roundly criticised he was, justifiably so.....
But that was a different issue - he was not going from a 965 to a supercharged 964, but rather to some sort of plain econobox his wife could drive, IIRC.
I am of the same mind as Rick/Smokin - a supercharger is very high on my list of needs (okay - my wife calls them "wants") but I had wisely been councelled that you are better off to get brakes, suspension, etc. in order first.
Puma - if you do go the SC route, do keep us in the loop.
Marc
03-16-2006, 01:22 PM
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Standard Brakes are awesome
I had wisely been councelled that you are better off to get brakes
03-16-2006, 01:31 PM
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Hiya Seaeagle
"Is there a reason why air cooled went out of fashion? Was it noise or was it technology, ie it just had to be water cooled to keep up the the competition?"
Pollution control , the air cooled motor is not as well controled temp wise as the water cooled , the water cooled can be tuned / adjusted to get rid of more byproducts . The rules were set for what the water cooled motor could do and the air cooled motor could not meet the rules .
VW brazil just stopped the aircooled motor , put a water cooled motor in the new baywindow van that they still make . Its funny to see a baywindow with a big radiator grill .
"Is there a reason why air cooled went out of fashion? Was it noise or was it technology, ie it just had to be water cooled to keep up the the competition?"
Pollution control , the air cooled motor is not as well controled temp wise as the water cooled , the water cooled can be tuned / adjusted to get rid of more byproducts . The rules were set for what the water cooled motor could do and the air cooled motor could not meet the rules .
VW brazil just stopped the aircooled motor , put a water cooled motor in the new baywindow van that they still make . Its funny to see a baywindow with a big radiator grill .
03-16-2006, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by C4Russ
The upgraded brakes only buy fade resistence, not additional stopping power. If you can lock up your tires today, you really can't improve the braking distance.
But stock power on a 964 is also awesome so why upgrade to forced induction on a street car?
There is no point in having more power unless you have opportunity to use it (unless you are just after the "gee-whiz" factor) and that can only be done safely on the track - hence the need for better brakes with reduced fade.
In my case, I fully admit that I am on the slippery slope to making this a track car. Sorry, but with all the posts about the mods I have done, I just assumed that was known.
Marc
03-16-2006, 02:31 PM
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Hello everybody, my name is Marc, I've been modding for over a year now but it has been 48 hours since I last bought something for my 964. My worst moments are when I see all those nice pictures on Rennlist. I cannot look at a mod without wanting it soooo bad.....
03-16-2006, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kris
The first step to recovery is admitting that something is wrong. One day we'll all sit together in a circle and we'll listen to eachother's stories.
Hello everybody, my name is Marc, I've been modding for over a year now but it has been 48 hours since I last bought something for my 964. My worst moments are when I see all those nice pictures on Rennlist. I cannot look at a mod without wanting it soooo bad.....
Hello everybody, my name is Marc, I've been modding for over a year now but it has been 48 hours since I last bought something for my 964. My worst moments are when I see all those nice pictures on Rennlist. I cannot look at a mod without wanting it soooo bad.....
Marc
03-16-2006, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by puma1824
hmm...I really need to check on that. Does that mean people with blower bypass pipes loose heat too?
FYI: TPC also told me they have a new piggy back computer that they will be releasing shortly to increase the HP and also allowing finer tuning of the air/fuel timing and mixture under boost.
03-16-2006, 09:36 PM
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For what it's worth, I've driven a friend's RSA with a TPC supercharger. My friend claims it makes around 400hp at the crank, though I doubt it. Nonetheless, I was mightily impressed with how effortless and seamless his car accelerates. It has a bit of an idle problem, but once underway it's so linear, preserving the car's basic characteristics. As nice it is, I'm not sure it's worth it. For one thing, it just isn't as thrilling as a 3.6 or 993 turbo. It doesn't slam you back in the seat in every gear between turns. I've tossed the SC idea around myself, but due to reliability concerns and the Porsche purity factor I think I'd vote for n/a enhancements at this point. The 964 has about the right amount of usable horsepower anyway IMO.
03-16-2006, 11:33 PM
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Puma,
Thats interesting that the heat isnt lost. That puts the supercharger back on my 'want' list.
(I cant live without interior heat in Canada) If you get any pics or more info be sure to post em.
Kirk
Kirk
Thats interesting that the heat isnt lost. That puts the supercharger back on my 'want' list.
(I cant live without interior heat in Canada) If you get any pics or more info be sure to post em.
Kirk
Kirk
03-17-2006, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KirkF
Puma,
Thats interesting that the heat isnt lost. That puts the supercharger back on my 'want' list.
(I cant live without interior heat in Canada) If you get any pics or more info be sure to post em.
Kirk
Thats interesting that the heat isnt lost. That puts the supercharger back on my 'want' list.
(I cant live without interior heat in Canada) If you get any pics or more info be sure to post em.
Kirk
