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Old 06-14-2018, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JAB12
I've never owned an aircooled turbo of any generation so cannot speak to that feeling. But my experience within my humble trio, I will take them in this order all day long. 1.- 964 C4, 2.- 993 C4S, 3.- 993 C2S. I personally prefer the AWD motion on the 9934S. I bought these cars for investment and events, not for performance, I don't wrench, track or race. Never driven a 964 C2 so cannot speak to that either, but as far as feel, I am with Cobalt on that one. I love love the original old school feel, you can tell and feel the hand assembly and I much prefer to drive the 964 overall. Porsche duped everyone with the 993 C2S through very limited production and marketing. And also that most of us are suckerzzz for ample derrieres... The car is essentially a base 993 C2 with a wide body frame and a few minor interior trimmings to make you feel good. Especially the 'Carrera S' inscription inside the RPM Gauge. That was the final FU from Porsche to justify the added price tag and two decades plus of everyone going nuts trying to find these cars ranging from collectible Unicorns to 'good deal' and bargains. I forgot how many new RLs have pm'd me asking about C2S ownership. Half of them have never owned a Porsche before let alone air cooled. It's just a 'Fad' or an insatiable need to punch your bragging rights ticket for the next cars and coffee. Laughable sometimes. I don't agree with that, but I am always happy to help as others so selflessly helped me when I was searching and I continue to thank them for that, those of you know who you are.

Whatever happend to that 993 Turbo from Lux motors, did someone pick it up? $97 K for a 993 Turbo is too good to be true. Something's up there? See you on the next...
Not wanting to divert this thread too far off topic but I wanted to comment about the 993 C2S. Years ago when the 993 was just starting its upward trajectory I had read from many that the S didn’t offer a better driving experience and if anything the added weight in the rear gave up some performance to the NB. I had read very similar review regarding the widebody G Body M491.
Old 06-16-2018, 06:22 AM
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purchase price (in USD please) $34,000
purchase date 5/30/18
mileage 64k Original
state or country where purchased WA/USA
Model year 91
C2 or C4
Coupe, targa or cab
color Guards red
tip or manual
NA or turbo
any aftermarket accessories that came with the car (including but not limited to wheels, suspension, exhaust, seats, stereo, mirrors, pedals, steering wheel, etc.) Just Stereo
did the vehicle come with tool kit Yes
did the vehicle come with tire inflator kit No
your assessment of the vehicle history in terms of paperwork/receipts (1-10, 10 being highest) 7
your assessment of the interior quality (1-10, 10 being highest 8
your assessment of the exterior quality (1-10, 10 being highest) 7 front end resprayed by dealer before PO purchased, rock chip repair
your assessment of the mechanical condition of the vehicle (1-10, 10 being highest) 10
3rd owner, clean Carfax, no rust.
Old 06-16-2018, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Marine Blue


Not wanting to divert this thread too far off topic but I wanted to comment about the 993 C2S. Years ago when the 993 was just starting its upward trajectory I had read from many that the S didn’t offer a better driving experience and if anything the added weight in the rear gave up some performance to the NB. I had read very similar review regarding the widebody G Body M491.
but DAT ***!!!
Old 06-16-2018, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rsabeebe
but DAT ***!!!
Exactly! Nicest rump I’ve ever seen............on a car.
Old 06-17-2018, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JAB12
I've never owned an aircooled turbo of any generation so cannot speak to that feeling. But my experience within my humble trio, I will take them in this order all day long. 1.- 964 C4, 2.- 993 C4S, 3.- 993 C2S. I personally prefer the AWD motion on the 9934S. I bought these cars for investment and events, not for performance, I don't wrench, track or race. Never driven a 964 C2 so cannot speak to that either,.
Ive owned c4’s, C2’s, nB, wB, RS, 964, 993... etc etc.

for me... I will never own another 4wd 911.

You cannot go wrong with a RWD 911. Whether it’s a 964, 993, 997, or whatever. But after owning several RS’s. It hard to live with a bone stock 993/964. With proper set up, brakes, sway bars, bushings, coil overs these cars really come alive. both 964 and 993 are super fun.

964’s are being converted to singers and other back dates. Soo they are being consumed by aftermarket tuners which makes them even more scarce. A good 964 C2 is just very hard to come by soo just that alone. I believe the values have eclipsed a regular 993 NB and will continue to rise as long as tuners continue to use the chassis.

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Old 06-17-2018, 11:10 AM
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Old 06-19-2018, 02:32 PM
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1989 C4 85K on it.
White on Tan.

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Old 07-04-2018, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Nostrathomas
A few questions:
• Curious what a fair market value of this would be?
•To what extend does being in Canada effect the price? I’m relatively close to Montana and could drive the car down to the border, but I’m not sure how much of a pain in the *** the cross-border purchase is for Americans.
I saw your post a while back but didn't get the chance to put my 2 cents in; I'm an American and recently purchased my 964 in Canada and drove it back to the US. It seems to me that the car being in Canada does add the perception that there's a barrier for potential American buyers, so some people get turned off by it, but in reality with all things considered, it was quite simple. The key is that my 964 (and yours as well) is over 25 years old, so it boils down to filling out 3 pieces of US Federal paperwork and paying any applicable duty on the car at the border.

I spent a good deal of time researching how to import a 25+ year old car into the US since I found the right car in Vancouver. The American buyer needs to fill out a FMVSS form from NHTSA, an EPA form and the US Customs Import form. The first 2 forms to declare the vehicle exempt from US Federal rules and the last form to show proper importation. All forms must be stamped by the Customs agent. They'll charge duty (comes to ~3%) if the vehicle has never previously been imported to the US. Mine was previously a US car before going to Canada, so duty was waived coming back in. I told the border guard that I'm importing the 964 and they sent me to the Customs House. The Customs agent there reviewed my passport, the bill of sale, forms, and stamped everything, and sent me on my way with the 964 legally imported back in. It probably took me an additional 30 minutes more to cross back into the US. Easy peasy.

Exception is California buyers, since California have pain in the butt vehicle emissions rules.

Beautiful car, btw. No matter what you choose to do, good luck!
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Old 08-17-2018, 11:56 AM
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Default 92 c4 for sale. $25k. is it worth it

Hello, My neighbor is selling his 92 c4 cab its leaking oil but runs great and paint is good and interior is in good condition. I am meeting with him today to find out more.
from what I know he is asking $25k. so even if it needs an engine rebuilt at worse there is still meat left for resale, right?
I want to find out more. looks like from past post here cabs c4 brought around 36k-40k or so. I don't know if its worth perusing it.
I would love to own a 964 for a year or so. I would only want to buy it for the love of restoring it and hoping to break even at the end.
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Have had my C2 almost two years now. Best driving car I have ever owned. A few subtle tweaks to the suspension, engine (chip) and cosmetics and it looks as good as it drives. Funnily enough, having always been an "F" car guy, I now am even more obsessed with Porsche than I ever was about Ferrari. A pic included of my two babies.
Old 08-23-2018, 01:14 PM
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Sold my 1992 964 Turbo with 28K miles for a song since I was chasing a 1989 factory slant nose...




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Old 08-23-2018, 08:45 PM
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Whats more expensive right now 964 or 993 coupe?
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Right now the 993 Turbos are on fire, the nicer ones are over $150k...
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^^ depends on the car, model, miles, condition, color, etc.

Both pretty close. Much easier to find a nice 993 for reasonable money. Not so with the 964.

The 964 turbo 3.6 trumps the 993TT by almost double but the 3.3lT is about the same maybe a little less than the 993 turbos on average. I haven't seen a 993TT top $150k my friends 993TT with 23k miles sold on BaT in near perfect condition low miles for $140+5%
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purchase price (in USD please) :83,333
purchase date : May 2018
mileage : 58,000
state or country where purchased : Hong Kong
Model year 1992
C2 Coupe,
color SIlver, originate is Bule
tip NA
aftermarket accessories that came with the car (BBS wheels, RWB exhaust,
come with tool kit
without tire inflator kit
your assessment of the vehicle history in terms of paperwork/receipts (1-10, 10 being highest) 10, since directly checked with the Porsche Hong Kong
your assessment of the interior quality (1-10, 10 being highest) 7
your assessment of the exterior quality (1-10, 10 being highest) 8
your assessment of the mechanical condition of the vehicle (1-10, 10 being highest) 8

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