Patrik S

Pete, my RS was an very early car(nr 105)! And it had never been raced.

Calvaire

mine's a 6XX something

Johan K

My RS is no. 889, as previously posted. Not raced. 77 ltr tank. LHD. First owner in Germany.

Adrian

I should have checked my book first before entering this discussion.
In the RS section the 92 litre tank is only mentioned on page 31 and it refers to the 964 RS 3.8.
I remember now that the entry on page 298 is missing the 3.8 and a correction was sent to the publisher about this.

I think I accepted the conclusion that the 92 litre tank was optional for the RS only in model year 1992 and was the standard for the RS 3.8 in 1993 and an option for all 964s from model year 1993.

I apologise for arguing against myself.
I am to blame for believing what I read here and not checking against what I wrote.
My only excuse is that I really do not think too much of the 964 these days and I had completely forgotten about this story.
It was confusing then and still is. I would still not 100% confirm what was standard and what was an option. A build spec sheet would help clear this up.
Ciao,
Adrian.

Johan K

Case closed! I will now enjoy my mince pies, or was it sherry, in peace and tranquility... Merry X-mas!

Dunasso

Adrien,

Your lack of concern for the 964 does not go unprecidented. It seems that there are numerous Porsche specialist and enthusiests, not to mention shops and vendors, that tend to denote or flat out ignore the 964s existance. To me the 964 is symbolic of the 911s resistance to change; a performance icon, if you will, and I proudly own a 91 C2cab and a 90 C4 coupe. These are the last of a great heratige of fine automobile, and upon their demize the legacy of Porche began to deteriorate into the highspeed production line we know today. Spitting out drastic body changes and facelifts every few years or less makes me wonder what Porsche has become. The days of selling to a select market of avid buyers/racers has turned into a grand profiteering event of greed, so it seems. Polished performance and engineering seems to have taken the back seat to styling changes and luxury; lack of maintainance and conformability. I no-longer see a racing heritage with Porsche; I see a highspeed production car, made for the mass's appeal. With the release of the 993 and the disconntinuation of the front engined cars, we all thought that Porsche had made a move towards a more aggressive form and an alteration that had combined all there great technology into one culmination of talent. We were wrong! That was the end or at least we we now look back on as the end.

I am not an old guy, but old enough to remember what a Porshe stood for. The kids today have no respect for the 911's heritage; it's just another car to them. Why should it be anything other than that? Over the past 7years Porsche has done nothing to prove there superiority. Wavering around cosmetic change after change. To the youth today Porsche IS no different than Nissan, Toyota, Honda. It's just another import that's not known to be superior, but suppose to be they think.

Not many if any enthusiests went right out and baught a brand new 996 as soon as it rolled into the showroom. My god it has taken me 7years to wram up to wanting to own one. I feel that in order to move on I have to accept; and no-one likes to be force-fed. Nevertheless, I am conforming and can see the benefits, but I still hold great researve, and think that the recent regression to the 997 is another marketing ploy to get back some of their lost croonies.

Duncan

Adrian

Huh
I have been accused of many things in my life but ignoring the existence of the 964 ain't one of them. You sure you have the right Adrian here?
Ciao,
Adrian.

Dunasso

Well Sense I'm unable to use the quote icon for some strange reason, I guess it will have to be typed.

Adrian " My only excuse is that I really do not think too much of the 964 these days"

I was not taking the possision to implicate "you" but rather, that there doesn't seem to be too many people who do, or ever did. Your statement seemed to indicate that you were jumping on that bandwagon.

To make my point short, it irritates me to no end sometimes when I'm looking for parts to my 964 and the year ranges from 78-87 and then goes straight to 95-98 and 99-2004. Hey, what happened to 89-94?

Maybe you could help explain the neglect for our beloved 964 when it comes to replacement part catalogues and magazines.

Sorry for the abuse it just struck a nerve I guess. Nonetheless, it is a valid argument.

Duncan

964RS

Adrian,

Let's hope he did got it all wrong and thinks you are some another guy. I would say that you are one of the most enthusiastic 964 person I know of. Keep up the great work Adrian.

Merry Christmas to you all!
Anders

P.S. My car has the 92 ltr gastank and it's not optional. It is perhaps because it's a Swedish model and has the for Sweden mandatory headlightwasher and for that reason also the C2/C4 watertank giving more room for the bigger gastank. VIN #13XX.

Dunasso

Yes, let's hope that I just misinterpreted Adrian's comment.

I too beleive that Adrian is a great enthusiest. But even great ethusiests make mis-statements from time to time, afterall no-one is perfect.

Again I truely hope that Adrian would not be tired of our beloved 964s and would continue with the great services that he prvides to us.

I was in NO way and I will repeat NO WAY implicating Adrian to be the bad guy.

With the comments that he made in the responces about the fueltank sizes and then again with the negative comment about 964s, I thought that he had grown tired. He seemed very aggitated in those responces.

This has been taken completely out of context.

I was merely taking his clear statement that he has grown tired of 964s and branching off from there.

I sencerily hope that I am consoling with intelligence here and not chatroom bashers.

If my point is not clear then maybe I should resign my membership? Please let me know.

Duncan

pncarrerars

Thanks to those who have supplied tank/chassis data. If I have understood it correctly then with my 18XX with 92 litre there is a pattern emerging...

105 77 litre
6xx 77 litre
889 77 litre
13xx 92 litre
18xx 92 litre

any more numbers anyone?

Pete '92 964 RS

ps, sorry if the subject was closed but I am a boring RS enthusiast I am keen to get hold of as much information as possible about the 964 RS

Patrik S

Adrian, your change in the tank size disscusion is a sign of great strength.
You are still the 964 icon and I still, a year from purchase, occasionally read your 964 book before I go to sleep.

I´m with you that we do not have the answer in this matter. The RS cars was/is special and maybe the is no “standard RS Basic”? A poll on bouild nr and tanksize would be interesting but will not get the awnser. The most interesting would be to get the build specification on all our RS´s. But that would take a lot of time and money from both us and Porsche.

This discussion has made me miss my RS. I guess we only miss the ones we loved

Merry Christmas Porsche friends
Patrik Selestam

Adrian

Dear Duncan,
You seem to take things far too seriously.
I do not think it is up to anyone here to say other people mispeak.
This forum is not a religion this is a car community.
It is best if you see red over a comment to just leave it alone because 99% of the time you are going to be wrong and you are going to really pee somebody off.

I no longer walk around thinking about 964 issues like I used to.
I no longer have my brain overloaded with 964 info.

However I have spent a huge amount of my time this year devoted exclusively to 964 issues.
964 book.
964 book tours.
964 tech sessions.
Developing a DIY bolt on 285 HP engine upgrade kit.
Developing an engine exchange program for 964 owners.
Exchange your old tired engine for a nice 3.6 or 3.8 litre version with between 300 and 320 HP ready to bolt in drive away. Comes with a remapped DME as well.
Developing a certification program for 19 inch wheels for the 964.

Oh what else?
I have written a 911SC book and started a 993 book.

On top of this I am supposed to have a life, earn an income, look after my family, answer hundreds of emails on 964 problems and once and a while when I get time spend some internet hours on rennlist.

Have I abandoned the 964? You tell me.

Do I still own a 964? Yes.

Do I long for a break from the 964? You betcha.
I would just like to drive around in it without a care in the world. Certainly not looking at things to see how and why they are doing what they are doing. This is the beauty of the GT-2. I can drive it around and have fun and not think about how it works.

Ciao,
Adrian.

Dunasso

Adrian,

So, when you said " I don't think much of the 964 these days" you ment I'm not spending as much time with 964s these days?

I obviously misunderstood what you ment, and on ocassion like most other people, do take things verbatim.

I am sorry, about the first sentence in my initial responce on this thread. There is no offence here, and I am in hope that we have come to an understanding.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!

Duncan

Adrian

Merry Christmas and a Happy Nw Year to you as well Duncan

Ciao,
Adrian.