C2 Suspension refresh - RS ride height
#1
Instructor
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C2 Suspension refresh - RS ride height
I’ve read through a bunch of the older threads on this topic but wanted to see if there’s any updated information.
I want to lower a C2 to RS ride height using KW V3’s. I’ve used V3’s on my last couple of cars and I like them. I’m curious to hear what additional recommendations there are for “while we’re at” updates like bump steer kit, end links, spring plates, etc. This is a weekend street car that’s not used on the track so I’m not looking for overkill but I want to do it the right way. Any recommended setups would be helpful.
I want to lower a C2 to RS ride height using KW V3’s. I’ve used V3’s on my last couple of cars and I like them. I’m curious to hear what additional recommendations there are for “while we’re at” updates like bump steer kit, end links, spring plates, etc. This is a weekend street car that’s not used on the track so I’m not looking for overkill but I want to do it the right way. Any recommended setups would be helpful.
#2
Rennlist Member
Just do the shocks and make sure your bushings are all fresh.
#3
Instructor
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Thanks. I didn’t mention that it’s a low mile car (under 50k). I think that im going to refresh with the Elephant racing sport rubber bushings.
I was also going to do the Elephant bump steer kit and tarett drop links at the recommendation of the shop. Do you think I should skip this?
I was also going to do the Elephant bump steer kit and tarett drop links at the recommendation of the shop. Do you think I should skip this?
#4
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Drop links are good as they will let you get the balance right with no preload. Bump steer kit is good depending on ride height.
For a street focused car i wouldnt do too much more.
For a street focused car i wouldnt do too much more.
#5
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Thanks again. I might go slightly lower than RS height but that’s the general look/ height I want. I don’t want to throw money away but I also don’t want to take the cheap way out doing it. It seems like the Elephant rubber bushings have great feedback for the street.
#6
The bump kit also does away with the rubber bushings in the steering arms- so thats 2 birds with one stone if your going to rs heights. Wouldn’t bother with the bushings or drop links unless there shot- which is unlikely at your mileage as they hold up pretty well. If your pushing the car the rs sway bars are a great addition.
pete
pete
#7
I have under 50k miles on mine and went with HR/Bilstien setup lowered almost as far as the setup would allow. I’m getting some pretty severe bump steer and it’s my understanding that the elephant racing bump steer correction kit should take care of this. I just have not gotten around to doing it yet. I’d suggest doing it “ while you’re in there “.
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#8
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The bump kit also does away with the rubber bushings in the steering arms- so thats 2 birds with one stone if your going to rs heights. Wouldn’t bother with the bushings or drop links unless there shot- which is unlikely at your mileage as they hold up pretty well. If your pushing the car the rs sway bars are a great addition.
pete
pete
I have under 50k miles on mine and went with HR/Bilstien setup lowered almost as far as the setup would allow. I’m getting some pretty severe bump steer and it’s my understanding that the elephant racing bump steer correction kit should take care of this. I just have not gotten around to doing it yet. I’d suggest doing it “ while you’re in there “.
-KW V3's
-Elephant racing bump steer correction kit
-RS Sway Bars
-I think I'm going to do the RUF strut brace too
It's also worth mentioning is anyone is looking at coilovers, KW has a rebate of $150 for V1's and $350 for V3's from 3/1-5/31.
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#11
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Glad this came up.
+1
Regardless of ride height, the Elephant kit seems like a no brainer... Not much more that Porsche replacement parts, yet a definite upgrade in design and performance.
https://www.elephantracing.com/porsc...e-rods-for-964Steering rack brace?
Also Rennline is offering an upgrade to the factory ball joints. Looks like a nice area to get a little more performance, without cost or performance negatives. (no affiliation...)
http://www.rennline.com/newssection.asp?dept=1185
What are people's thoughts?
The bump kit also does away with the rubber bushings in the steering arms- so thats 2 birds with one stone if your going to rs heights. Wouldn’t bother with the bushings or drop links unless there shot- which is unlikely at your mileage as they hold up pretty well. If your pushing the car the rs sway bars are a great addition.
+1
Regardless of ride height, the Elephant kit seems like a no brainer... Not much more that Porsche replacement parts, yet a definite upgrade in design and performance.
https://www.elephantracing.com/porsc...e-rods-for-964
Also Rennline is offering an upgrade to the factory ball joints. Looks like a nice area to get a little more performance, without cost or performance negatives. (no affiliation...)
Rennline's New High Density Line of Bushings and Mounts
The all new Rennline High Density collection provides enthusiasts a perfect compromise between solid bushings and standard, run of the mill OE replacements. These bushings, mounts, shifters and more will provide a more connected and planted feeling between you, your Porsche, and the road. Sport durometer pieces offer an increase in stiffness of approximately 25% over factory replacements, which is enough to significantly improve performance without added road noise and vibrations associated with solid mounts.
The all new Rennline High Density collection provides enthusiasts a perfect compromise between solid bushings and standard, run of the mill OE replacements. These bushings, mounts, shifters and more will provide a more connected and planted feeling between you, your Porsche, and the road. Sport durometer pieces offer an increase in stiffness of approximately 25% over factory replacements, which is enough to significantly improve performance without added road noise and vibrations associated with solid mounts.
What are people's thoughts?
#12
Instructor
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I reached out to Elephant Racing and they recommended the following for a street car at RS height:
-Front tie rod kit with adjustable bump steer
-Sway Bar Front "RS" Version 5 Way Adjustable
-Sway Bar rear "RS" Version 3 Way Adjustable
-964 Euro RS swaybar bushing Front/ Rear
-Drop link set, adjustable length and spherical bearing for front with boots
-Drop link set, adjustable length spherical bearing for rear with boots
They recommended Von coilovers which is what I expected. I’ve had V3’s and a couple cars and I like all the adjustments, quality, and comfort for the street. I’ve also used H&R coilovers but I prefer the KW’s.
I’ve never used anything from Elephant Racing before but I have to say they have excellent customer service. This is the second time I’ve reached out to them and they’re always very helpful talking through options.
-Front tie rod kit with adjustable bump steer
-Sway Bar Front "RS" Version 5 Way Adjustable
-Sway Bar rear "RS" Version 3 Way Adjustable
-964 Euro RS swaybar bushing Front/ Rear
-Drop link set, adjustable length and spherical bearing for front with boots
-Drop link set, adjustable length spherical bearing for rear with boots
They recommended Von coilovers which is what I expected. I’ve had V3’s and a couple cars and I like all the adjustments, quality, and comfort for the street. I’ve also used H&R coilovers but I prefer the KW’s.
I’ve never used anything from Elephant Racing before but I have to say they have excellent customer service. This is the second time I’ve reached out to them and they’re always very helpful talking through options.
#13
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Up to you if you want sways too. May or may not be necessary.
one thing you may consider is rsr type solid inner link on the steering rack. This removes the rubber and makes a real difference in steering feel.
Actually looks like elephants tie rod kit includes that. Def consider those
one thing you may consider is rsr type solid inner link on the steering rack. This removes the rubber and makes a real difference in steering feel.
Actually looks like elephants tie rod kit includes that. Def consider those
#14
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Regardless of ride height, the Elephant kit seems like a no brainer... Not much more that Porsche replacement parts, yet a definite upgrade in design and performance.
https://www.elephantracing.com/porsc...e-rods-for-964
https://www.elephantracing.com/porsc...e-rods-for-964
Yes, along with Ricochet steering rack bushings.
Also Rennline is offering an upgrade to the factory ball joints. Looks like a nice area to get a little more performance, without cost or performance negatives. (no affiliation...)
http://www.rennline.com/newssection.asp?dept=1185
What are people's thoughts?
http://www.rennline.com/newssection.asp?dept=1185
What are people's thoughts?
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