Do you like NB or WB and state why ;)
Yes, another one of these. I've started collecting parts for my project - WB parts, because at one point I fell in love with an RSR...the look, wide and mean! Since then, I see so many NBs that catch my eye and I can tell you the ONE thing that really pulls me to the NB look...
The margin of the flat area at the edge of the wheel opening. I like that the NB has the really narrow edge there, where the turbo/wb is much...fatter/thicker. I think the smaller edge makes for a "tighter" looking wheel fitment. Anyone? |
Originally Posted by jeff33702
(Post 15531448)
I like that the NB has the really narrow edge there,
Had both, WB 964 best looking Porsche, ever. And opinion is like a* hole. everyone has it. Happy building. |
I like all of them, they all look good in different ways!
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I like my WB for the way it looks in the rear view mirror.
I like the NB because it makes me think of a more nimble car. If it is a Speedster, I prefer the WB by a long shot - the proportions with the low window just look better. It looks too small in NB. But I will still take any of them over a lot, a whole lot of other cars out there. |
Originally Posted by Mikke_Possu
(Post 15531799)
WB 964 best looking Porsche, ever.
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Wide body by far, with the 3.8 RS being my favorite. So much so that I was thinking of forward dating my SC until I picked up the 964. However, I went to pick up food last night and while walking back towards the car and seeing it shine under parking lot lights, it struck me again how good looking the car currently is. So I’m still undecided what to do with this car WB wise, but there’s no rush. I’m never getting rid of it. |
I prefer the WB, but I think the points you picked out about the NB is what I love about the NB. I too think the WB 964 is the pinnacle of air-cooled in appearance, but I really think the NB is right behind it. Love them both!
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NB for me guys, but I would slightly mod some FRP front wings I have , almost like an ST and that would make it in between NB to WB https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...86f182080.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...627f846a7.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0730b3529.jpeg |
NB looks just right & elegant on the 964.
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Originally Posted by Tarek307
(Post 15532885)
NB looks just right & elegant on the 964.
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Why I did the rebuild
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It depends on the engine but really both bodies look great.
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Originally Posted by kos11-12
(Post 15532314)
NB for me guys, but I would slightly mod some FRP front wings I have , almost like an ST and that would make it in between NB to WB https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...86f182080.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...627f846a7.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0730b3529.jpeg |
I like them both. All new cars are getting too wide and fat, IMO.
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I have always loved the look of 964's.. but if I were to choose between looks of different iterations I would always go for the wingless WB on speedlines. The fenders (front and back) are just right! And the silhouette is quintessentially Porsche! It will never age or go out of fashion.
RUF hit the nail on the head with their new SCR. I had portraits of my cars made by an artist with OCD-level of attention to details, you can compare them all on a side profile.. missing an RSR though :rolleyes: Attachment 1298075 Attachment 1298076 |
I only like narrow body 964s...cuz they have the same parts as mine. I have fear of change. So i only work on C4 narrow body cars...and when a C2 comes into the garage, i do it, but need therapy after i finish. A wide body would lead me to the edge of the cliff, unless maybe the front and rear suspension was changed to narrow components...then we just remove the super fat wheels and i just wouldn't look at the fenders...
So the real scoop is this..for me.....i can't get over that the fenders are crazy fat/wide, and the wheel and tire size is essentially the same as a narrow body car...so for me- if i had a wide body- I'd have to give reason to the fenders and switch to narrow suspension and go fat/wide and meaty for the wheels and tires, or it would make no sense. |
Originally Posted by Goughary
(Post 15534875)
I only like narrow body 964s...cuz they have the same parts as mine. I have fear of change. So i only work on C4 narrow body cars...and when a C2 comes into the garage, i do it, but need therapy after i finish. A wide body would lead me to the edge of the cliff, unless maybe the front and rear suspension was changed to narrow components...then we just remove the super fat wheels and i just wouldn't look at the fenders...
So the real scoop is this..for me.....i can't get over that the fenders are crazy fat/wide, and the wheel and tire size is essentially the same as a narrow body car...so for me- if i had a wide body- I'd have to give reason to the fenders and switch to narrow suspension and go fat/wide and meaty for the wheels and tires, or it would make no sense. Mr. Wolfe |
NB for me. To my eye they look more elegant than their wide body counterpart. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...aa591cc6d.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...24a303eb3.jpeg |
Originally Posted by boostedt0y
(Post 15534969)
NB for me. To my eye they look more elegant than their wide body counterpart. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...aa591cc6d.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...24a303eb3.jpeg Mr. Wolfe |
Originally Posted by Greg Wolfe
(Post 15535016)
Gorgeous car.
Mr. Wolfe |
Originally Posted by Goughary
(Post 15534875)
I only like narrow body 964s...cuz they have the same parts as mine. I have fear of change. So i only work on C4 narrow body cars...and when a C2 comes into the garage, i do it, but need therapy after i finish. A wide body would lead me to the edge of the cliff, unless maybe the front and rear suspension was changed to narrow components...then we just remove the super fat wheels and i just wouldn't look at the fenders...
So the real scoop is this..for me.....i can't get over that the fenders are crazy fat/wide, and the wheel and tire size is essentially the same as a narrow body car...so for me- if i had a wide body- I'd have to give reason to the fenders and switch to narrow suspension and go fat/wide and meaty for the wheels and tires, or it would make no sense. |
I like them both but the widebody with narrow rear suspension with the deep dish wide wheels is by far my favorite.
You can't tell me that one actually looks better than the other the only ugly 964 is a badly damaged and poorly repaired 964. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...fabf1d0da9.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...52ca61d06f.jpg |
Wow those Fikse!
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Can't go wrong with either... but wide body with narrow trailing arms and deep dish rims for the win.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ga...=w1409-h936-no |
IMHO, 964's look great NB or WB. As a 993 owner, I prefer ONLY the WB 993.
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Originally Posted by kos11-12
(Post 15532314)
NB for me guys, but I would slightly mod some FRP front wings I have , almost like an ST and that would make it in between NB to WB
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...86f182080.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...627f846a7.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0730b3529.jpeg My Strosek has a similar flare for the front fender. Not sure if it is a kit. Kinda hard to see as it is very subtle but these are the best photos that I can find. Hope this gives you an idea of what a finished fender may look like. https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4413/...2e048bf4_h.jpg https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4402/...5d839ecb_h.jpg https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4344/...6b32756c_h.jpg https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4416/...93ea61c5_h.jpg |
I'm not as technically knowledgeable as most on here so can some please clarify what "wide body with narrow trailing arms and deep dish rims" means.
Is there a different suspension setup for wide bodies vs. narrow bodies? What is the normal wheel size for narrow bodies? My rear tires are 265/40-17. I don't have many pictures of my car directly from the rear showing the wheels and stance but this is the best that I have: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4465/...46380640_h.jpg https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4376/...de912851_h.jpg Is this a narrow body suspension? I don't think the wheels can get much wider and still fit. |
Hello Canuck,
Thanks for the pictures great inspiration ! this is kind of what I am trying to achieve, never though about the Strosek body are they fiberglass ? I love the side body with no side panels I think it looks much better than the original design, as Porsche did for the 993 is the kit still available ? |
Seams that you have narrow arm at the rear with a wide dish wheels, suspensions will be the same as narrow body
Regarding the front you may as well have a NB wishbone with a narrow wheel offset whats called ET and an 8 or 8 1/2 rim the wheel will probably seat where it show on your car. |
Originally Posted by jeff33702
(Post 15531448)
I can tell you the ONE thing that really pulls me to the NB look... The margin of the flat area at the edge of the wheel opening. I like that the NB has the really narrow edge there, where the turbo/wb is much...fatter/thicker. I think the smaller edge makes for a "tighter" looking wheel fitment. Anyone?
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4e7639b243.png |
From all the 964 Strosek I just look at, In my opinion yours looks the best as is still keep the classic 911 shape but just make it a cleaner look , witch is what Porsche try to do with the 993 but I think fail with the front bumper and wings combination.
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The 965 trailing arms are huge and heavy. Great for high speed stability but were slow at reacting and makes the car less nimble at slow speeds. It limits the maximum wheel width to 10.5 inches I fit turbo wheels easily on my C2 as the fikse's I have on my C2 came from a 965 and are identical size and offset.
Running the narrow rear arms in the rear will allow up to 12" wide rear wheels although the car drives best with the front set to turbo outboard settings. I run 9.5's up front and 11 rears with factory RSR speedlines for the street. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...a9f06ffd6a.jpg |
Man, that's a great look. So this brings me back to the car that started me on all of this, pretty much. There's always one, right? I came across the build by "mark my words" - you guys probably know it. Silver RSR replica that started life as a slicktop silver C4.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...7ce4faafa4.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ea6fcb6509.jpg |
Since coupes aren't available in decent condition and cabs are quite prevalent I was considering converting cabs to coupes. It isn't that difficult to do.
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By slicktop, I meant no sunroof. But I did also consider buying a vert and making it a coupe...until I found this basket case :) |
Originally Posted by cobalt
(Post 15538415)
Since coupes aren't available in decent condition and cabs are quite prevalent I was considering converting cabs to coupes. It isn't that difficult to do.
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Originally Posted by kos11-12
(Post 15537079)
Hello Canuck,
Thanks for the pictures great inspiration ! this is kind of what I am trying to achieve, never though about the Strosek body are they fiberglass ? I love the side body with no side panels I think it looks much better than the original design, as Porsche did for the 993 is the kit still available ? I am the 2nd owner of the car. I imported it from Japan. I have a copy of the original invoice. The car was modified at the Strosek Factory so I do not know if there is a kit available or if there was a kit whether it is available now. If you can read German you can see what the original Strosek mods were and what they charged to do them back in 1990. I am sure you have already found their website - https://www.strosek.de/ Sorry I cannot help with more information. https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7908/...85e93c68_c.jpg |
Originally Posted by LPMM
(Post 15538636)
I thought about doing this to mine until I started adding up all the necessary parts. This plus the labor would get costly rather quickly.
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I cant say that i dislike any 964, nb or wb, i will probably have both but i started with a wb with the nb trailing arms and love the way it handles and looks. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...aa0df93a7.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...046ea6757.jpeg |
Originally Posted by cobalt
(Post 15540052)
It is costly but you could build a nice coupe with RS WB flairs and what does it matter if it started life as a cab. I wouldn't bother with a sunroof I like the clean lines and wouldn't miss it. It most likely would cost less than trying to fix most of the damaged coupes but not for the faint of heart when it comes to the bill.
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Originally Posted by Whitezulu
(Post 15540649)
and as a bonus a stiffer car as you are closing the cell of the already reinforced convertible 964 Mr. Wolfe |
Originally Posted by cobalt
(Post 15540052)
It is costly but you could build a nice coupe with RS WB flairs and what does it matter if it started life as a cab. I wouldn't bother with a sunroof I like the clean lines and wouldn't miss it. It most likely would cost less than trying to fix most of the damaged coupes but not for the faint of heart when it comes to the bill.
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