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JamesN. 03-07-2018 02:46 PM

Rocker Panel Clips Replacement
 
The rocker panel clips on my 93 C2 have lost their grip. To hopefully fix this issue, I ordered a pair of new clips, grommets, and the rubber seal strip.

Not sure how the clips normally connect to the panel itself as they are currently detached from the panel. Should I add an adhesive tape to the back of the clips?

These photos are after I pulled on the panel this morning in preparation for "surgery" this weekend when the parts arrive.

Any advice would be appreciated! https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...8973e9b7d7.jpg

Rocker panel pulled back
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...daaf2e3317.jpg

Closeup of old clip

JohnK964 03-07-2018 02:57 PM

They look like they have already been glued on in the past I have mine off and later today can get you a good picture of how they were originally attached not all of mine are broken. I think most who have this issue get some type of adhesive line JB Weld and reattach them. I will post the picture of mine about 4:30 MST today

JamesN. 03-07-2018 03:08 PM

Thanks John. Maybe I'm overcomplicating things by replacing the clips - especially if I just end up gluing them anyway.

Deserion 03-07-2018 03:10 PM

Using epoxy to adhere the mounts to the panel is in the FSM, so it's legit. ;) The plastic hooks that it is supposed to attach to disintegrate so the epoxy is the only way to keep it together. Then use plastic nuts on the other side to hold it all together.

Rocket Rob 03-07-2018 03:15 PM

Be sure to use an epoxy specific for plastic. I've found it holds the best.

911Jetta 03-07-2018 03:25 PM

More pics here for reference: https://photos.google.com/u/1/album/...8J10xVCL7_wqCK

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cj...w1600-h1200-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/yn...=w1600-h752-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/GW...w1600-h1200-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZD...w1600-h1200-no

Super90 03-07-2018 03:31 PM

JB Weld does NOT work. Ask me how I know. You need the proper plastic adhesive and prep.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...fa3c97336a.jpg

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...861527df00.jpg


This is the proper stuff and a body shop will have it, the applicator gun, prep, etc. Just find a friend and take them your parts....thats what I did.

Or you buy the whole kit and do the same for your "friends"
Get the replacement clips and glue them on with this and your problems are over. Otherwise, you will be back in there again later.

EDIT: Picture of proper clips glued on (first time around with the improper "glue")
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...16b4877f97.jpg

John McM 03-07-2018 03:54 PM

My experience is as per the above I.e. You need the proper adhesive.

Another thought is to ensure that there is no excess pressure on the clips being used to pull the longer sill in. If correctly adjusted/fitted the sill is sitting close to the body and the shark fin fits next to it. On my car I had to fit a thread to the last clip on the long sill to keep it flush to the body and not press against the shark fin. I hope that makes sense. I would post pics if this app would let me do so without a server error.

JohnK964 03-07-2018 04:15 PM

Looks like no need for me to add pictures good tip on not using JB weld I haven’t tried it yet and now no not to Thanks guys 👍

JamesN. 03-07-2018 04:17 PM

Thanks everyone. This is incredibly helpful. Good advice to use proper adhesive otherwise I'll be re-doing everything down the road. Ideally I'll connect with a local body shop as purchasing the 3M adhesive + gun setup looks a bit steep for what's hopefully a very small job.

Having not crawled under the car yet, I wasn't sure what was holding the clips in place. Now having seen this photo, it now makes sense that the plastic nuts are holding the clips.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...4b9a6178b3.png

JohnK964 03-07-2018 08:44 PM

I checked out the products mention above it looks like a person can get both for under a 100 seems it is a small price for a permanent fix seeing how a used shark fin is a 135 $ thanks again guys

JamesN. 03-11-2018 09:22 PM

Wanted to share an update on this thread. I picked up the parts from the Porsche dealer yesterday and then went to Advance Auto Parts to pick up some adhesive. The Porsche Dealer didn't have any adhesive for this type of job and I waited too long to connect with a body shop.

While not the recommended 3M adhesive, I was short on time as I had my first track event today. After applying the adhesive and letting it cure for an hour, the studs were firmly adhered to the panel and bolted easily into place.In terms of durability, having just returned from Summit Point, I can safely the adhesive worked just fine.

Total cost including adhesive was around $20. Here are some photos documenting the fix:

Old Studs Removed
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...875aec0c8d.jpg

These bumps helped align the new studs
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0db1d9abbf.jpg

These too
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...02bd185a24.jpg

New Studs Part #99950737300
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...aed98d70fb.jpg

Note the studs are threaded and different than rocker clips
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c159f84c35.jpg

Plastic Nut Part #99904900740
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...70f7f2c0cc.jpg

Plastic Nut Closeup
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c160da5b79.jpg

Advance Auto Parts Adhesive
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2f5da10fe0.jpg

Adhesive Mixed in Plastic Tray
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...37f8259a1b.jpg

Adhesive on back of stud
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2ddae35731.jpg

Stud adhered to panel. Before applying I scrubbed the panel to clean the surface. Let cure for one hour.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...280c410d9d.jpg

Popping the panel back into place
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...e8a1d975c1.jpg

Snug fit
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...0c8a43b627.jpg

Nuts threaded tightly by hand on back of studs. Will likely go back and tighten more.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...61fa735226.jpg

Early start at Summit Point
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...3730285d0b.jpg

End of a great day with my brother who drove the 993. Special thanks to Chip and Gary for being great instructors at my first PCA driving event.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...9557cbe402.jpg

Rocket Rob 03-12-2018 09:41 AM

Glad it worked out. :cheers:

kta 11-21-2019 05:34 PM

Hi All,

I'm planning to replace my passenger side rocker panel clips and weather strip next weekend. I have all the parts handy from Pelican Parts. It looks like the clips still on the rocker, but they're not sticking to the little red plastic nub anymore, so I'm going to do a full replacement across the front and shark fin panels. (photos attached)

Question about the Adhesive: The 3M is costly for using such a small amount - and harder to find. After running by the hardware store, they recommended this JB Weld Plastic Bonder. It's not epoxy, but seems like it might do the trick long term. Any thoughts on whether this JB Weld Plastic Bonder would be a viable solution? I ask because I'm restricted to what Home Depot has or Amazon (+ timing).

Thanks!
Kevin
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...441aed98f.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6a8f96081.jpeg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...c8eb252ea.jpeg


RSA964993 11-23-2019 08:41 AM

What we’re the part numbers for the rocker panels and seal? I need to look into getting those. Thanks.


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