Cay

Adrian,

this speedy runs from first day allways with a german registration, been sold
from his first owner after 2 years and been in hand of a german who have
houses in germany and in spain and left this mint speedster mostly there
in spain who picked up a new 996 and trades this speedy in to the porsche center in dortmund, germany. its easy to check the fin and exact delivery options for a porsche center and its been offered as a original wtl speedy with a very high price from around 70K euros. the dealer confirmed the originality absolutely.


aftermarket wide bodys from techart, gemballa etc are nearly unsellable
and are never over 50K.

Adrian

Dear Cay,
70K Euros would suggest it is genuine but I am very sceptical of these things because there are so many fakes. There is a German company who specialises in making Speedsters out of anything. I was called one day by a chap who was so proud that he purchased a limited edition 993 Speedster. Even with a 3.2 engine.
By the way the VIN is meaningless in this case. The Speedster TLs were mainly conversions. Only 5 were done before the Speedster left the factory. They all carried the same VIN series as the narrowbodies. It is all in the paperwork and the options. Only 5 of them will have M491 declared. The others will be declared by Werk 1.
The red flag for me is when they say Factory look wide body. They are in actual fact Turbo looks. TL only = genuine one.
Ciao,
Adrian
964C4

Cay

Hi Adrian

yes you are right with the fakes - the same thing by 993 RS`s - there are
a couple aftermarket converted ones out there and even some of their owners believe that its genuine. But in the case of this Speedster its for sure a real one cuz we dont have "free" PAG dealers and they can`t effort
cheating customers with unright declarations. This mint Speedster been sold than finally to a well known cardealer here in germany who deals only 911`s. He tried to sell this Speedy for 85K euros! I saw him a long time in mobile.de - the main german used car platform - and the car dissapeared
out of it shortly the dealer lowered the price for a serious sum after 2 months. Dont know where the car is now.

targatime

An example of the strosek targa body to compare to

JoeW

Porsche 911, Enthusiast's Companion Carrera 2, Carrera 4 and Turbo 1989-1994, by Adrian Streather. Cambridge MA: Bentley, 2003. www.BentleyPublishers.com Also available through Barnes & Noble, & Amazon.

Hope this helps. J

targatime

Pardon the interuption...... and my apologies for posting this picuture to the wrong thread.

(rookie mistake)

Doug H

Shouldn't the Green Speedster have the RS seats? Seems strange someone would go for a custom color like that and delete the seats.

J-McDonald

My understanding is that the default with 964 Speedsters was the hard-back Recaro seat, but the "comfort" seats were a no-cost option.

Doug H

My seat source (car dealer) seemed to think that the Speedsteers without the RS seats were much less valuable than the those with the RS seats. No cost option is kind of funny when you consider Porsche wants like $ 8,000 per seat for the RS Seats. Doubt the comfy seats costs that much. They should have given a fat rebate on the comfy seats. Maybe wrong though.