Lemans REAR spoiler
#18
Rennlist Member
How do you think the aerodynamic improvement of the GT-Racing spoiler compares to the bridge spoiler from Deutsche Nine? Both product pages tout increased downforce.
Last edited by rlets; 04-22-2016 at 07:16 PM. Reason: added GT-Racing spoiler picture
#21
I wonder just how much that extra little inch of a lip does
If I was going through the trouble I'd rather do the huge deep spoiler you see around (gtracing iirc so fitment is lame)
http://www.bakody.com/Rennlist/924s21.jpg
If I was going through the trouble I'd rather do the huge deep spoiler you see around (gtracing iirc so fitment is lame)
http://www.bakody.com/Rennlist/924s21.jpg
#22
Rennlist Member
[QUOTE=rlets;13223596]How do you think the aerodynamic improvement of the GT-Racing spoiler compares to the bridge spoiler from Deutsche Nine? Both product pages tout increased downforce.
In reality, there's no spoiler that will give downforce. What they do is reduce lift at speed. Yes, they'll provide aero benefit, but only a wing will overcome lift and actually create some downforce. Also, keep in mind the importance of matching the aero improvement in front via a lower spoiler, or in the case of a wing a proper splitter. A car with unbalanced aero is a handful at speed, and is no fun at all.
In reality, there's no spoiler that will give downforce. What they do is reduce lift at speed. Yes, they'll provide aero benefit, but only a wing will overcome lift and actually create some downforce. Also, keep in mind the importance of matching the aero improvement in front via a lower spoiler, or in the case of a wing a proper splitter. A car with unbalanced aero is a handful at speed, and is no fun at all.
Last edited by michaelmount123; 04-24-2016 at 11:34 PM.
#23
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#24
Rennlist Member
[QUOTE=michaelmount123;13228273]
Exactly! I'm sort of surprised the factory didn't seem to come up with much for the front end re downforce Michael? I think for most people expressing interest in this piece it probably won't make too much difference unless they're regularly going well over 100mph. One other thing to bear in mind is that unless the new custom piece is designed with drainage you'll collect a ton of water if in heavy rain when in traffic or parked.
How do you think the aerodynamic improvement of the GT-Racing spoiler compares to the bridge spoiler from Deutsche Nine? Both product pages tout increased downforce.
In reality, there's no spoiler that will give downforce. What they do is reduce lift at speed. Yes, they're provide aero benefit, but only a wing will overcome lift and actually create some downforce. Also, keep in mind the importance of matching the aero improvement in front via a lower spoiler, or in the case of a wing a proper splitter. A car with unbalanced aero is a handful at speed, and is no fun at all.
In reality, there's no spoiler that will give downforce. What they do is reduce lift at speed. Yes, they're provide aero benefit, but only a wing will overcome lift and actually create some downforce. Also, keep in mind the importance of matching the aero improvement in front via a lower spoiler, or in the case of a wing a proper splitter. A car with unbalanced aero is a handful at speed, and is no fun at all.
#25
Burning Brakes
[QUOTE=michaelmount123;13228273]
This may sound like semantics, but I want to understand. It sounds like you are saying it the downforce a spoiler provides is less than the amount of lift our cars would have, so the net effect is the it only reduces lift. Downforce of a spoiler/wing would have to be greater than lift, to have net downforce. correct?
So back to the question at the top of the quote. Does anyone know or have a feel for how the Lemans/GT spoiler compares to the 968 Turbo S/Deutsche Nine bridge spoiler in reducing lift?
How do you think the aerodynamic improvement of the GT-Racing spoiler compares to the bridge spoiler from Deutsche Nine? Both product pages tout increased downforce.
In reality, there's no spoiler that will give downforce. What they do is reduce lift at speed. Yes, they'll provide aero benefit, but only a wing will overcome lift and actually create some downforce. Also, keep in mind the importance of matching the aero improvement in front via a lower spoiler, or in the case of a wing a proper splitter. A car with unbalanced aero is a handful at speed, and is no fun at all.
In reality, there's no spoiler that will give downforce. What they do is reduce lift at speed. Yes, they'll provide aero benefit, but only a wing will overcome lift and actually create some downforce. Also, keep in mind the importance of matching the aero improvement in front via a lower spoiler, or in the case of a wing a proper splitter. A car with unbalanced aero is a handful at speed, and is no fun at all.
So back to the question at the top of the quote. Does anyone know or have a feel for how the Lemans/GT spoiler compares to the 968 Turbo S/Deutsche Nine bridge spoiler in reducing lift?
#26
Rennlist Member
The wing on the bridge spoiler (if it's an actual wing profile) will be superior and create less turbulence than the Le Mans spoiler.
#27
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[QUOTE=CO951;13233253]
This may sound like semantics, but I want to understand. It sounds like you are saying it the downforce a spoiler provides is less than the amount of lift our cars would have, so the net effect is the it only reduces lift. Downforce of a spoiler/wing would have to be greater than lift, to have net downforce. correct?
You are correct.
This may sound like semantics, but I want to understand. It sounds like you are saying it the downforce a spoiler provides is less than the amount of lift our cars would have, so the net effect is the it only reduces lift. Downforce of a spoiler/wing would have to be greater than lift, to have net downforce. correct?
#30
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This is a DE car. And we've got two spots at local tracks where I'm really noticing the aero imbalance. One is a pavement irregularity where the road course leaves the drag strip at Pacific Raceways, hitting that at 140+ mph can be exciting. The other is a 100 mph crest at Oregon Raceway Park where there's often a significant crosswind.
Thanks again,
Rich