Notices
944 Turbo and Turbo-S Forum 1982-1991
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Clore Automotive

alignment settings

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-02-2003, 11:30 PM
  #1  
mochman
Pro
Thread Starter
 
mochman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PA
Posts: 708
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default alignment settings

re-aligning my car tomorrow what would be a good street setting car is lowered approx 1" 250lb srings and camber plates 225/50 front and 245/45 rears
on a different note is a map system better than a maf?
thanx
Old 10-02-2003, 11:32 PM
  #2  
rhesus
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
rhesus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: socal
Posts: 1,136
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

do a search... you will find TONS of info on the MAP vs MAF debate
Old 10-03-2003, 01:56 AM
  #3  
Sami951
Drifting
 
Sami951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Espoo, Finland
Posts: 2,668
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I've got about -1.5deg camber rear, -1deg front, caster -3deg front, toe-in 0.10 front and rear ... 225/40 and 255/35 tires, 250lb springs front. It's definately a pushy setup, but might be just a bit too much for 100% street use. I've been to a track a few times this year and my tire wear is about as even as it can be (I need to post a pic..)

Next year I'm going to get more camber in front, and also get rid of toe-in.

Check out this article for more suggestions:
http://www.davidsims.ukgateway.net/9...reparation.htm

Hope this helps!
Old 10-03-2003, 02:09 AM
  #4  
TonyG
Rennlist Junkie Forever
 
TonyG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 5,978
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

I use:

Front: -1.2 camber, -2.5 caster, 0 toe

Rear: -1.6 camber , 0 toe

No torsion bars, 250lbs front/350lbs rear with coil overs.

Weltmeister sway bars front full stiff, rear 3/4 stiff.

Car level at the door sil.

This give a little understeer at the limit, but with excellent turn-in and rotation through the corners with Hoosiers (as well as street tires). May be a little quick turn-in for you.. in which case add .10" toe-in in the rear.
Old 10-03-2003, 03:05 AM
  #5  
ninefiveone
Rennlist Member
 
ninefiveone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: SF Bay
Posts: 1,550
Received 40 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Front: -2.2 camber, -3.0 caster, 0 toe

Rear: -1.5 camber , 0.1 toe

Stock springs, Koni Yellows (1/3 stiff in front, 1/2 stiff in the rear), M030 Sways (Half stiff in the rear), strut bad and MPSC meats.

Car level at the door sil.
Old 10-03-2003, 02:43 PM
  #6  
Van
Rennlist Member
 
Van's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Hyde Park, NY
Posts: 12,007
Received 88 Likes on 58 Posts
Default

If you're driving on the street, stock is probably fine. If you want a car that turns in a little faster, but one that's a little twitch going fast in a straight line, go with 0 degrees of toe in for the rear, and almost 0 degrees of tow in (like 0.05) for the front. If you get any toe out in the front, the car will feel very unstable -- that's why factory is about 0.1 to 0.15.

As for negative camber, the more negative camber you have, the flatter a contact patch (more area=more rubber touching the raod) you'll be able to get while you're cornering hard. However, the flip side is you'll wear out the inside of the tires if you drive straight a lot (street). I'd probably recommend -1 for the front, and about the same for the rear. If you're going to track the car, go with -1.5 for each. If you're running track tires, between -2 and -3.

I've always left the caster at the factory spec (you want it to be identical for both sides) and been very happy with that.

Good luck.
Old 10-03-2003, 03:51 PM
  #7  
Alpine951
Drifting
 
Alpine951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,597
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have been wondering about my alignment lately. I have been tracking my daily driver about 5 to 7 times a year for the last three years. How about getting camber plates so you can set it for the track and change it for the street.
Old 10-04-2003, 09:33 AM
  #8  
C5Driver951
Racer
 
C5Driver951's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Bucks Co PA
Posts: 326
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

If you change your camber for the track with camber plates, make sure you check your toe change. Whenever you add more negative camber you will add toe out. This could be the desired result or you can end up with a very unstable car that turns in great.

I run:

-1.5 front with 2.8 caster (all I could get evenly, will try again to get more) and no toe
-1.75 rear and no toe

350# fronts
25.5 torsion bars + 200 lb/in helpers
turbo cup sway bars
revalved shocks

With this set up I had slightly more wear on the outer edges. I am going to try -1.75 and -2.0.
Old 10-04-2003, 08:45 PM
  #9  
adrial
Nordschleife Master
 
adrial's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Northern NJ
Posts: 7,426
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Is there any reason to NOT max out caster aside from increased steering effort?

Also, is toe in a positive toe number or negative? Positive I would imagine, correct?
Old 10-07-2003, 12:35 PM
  #10  
Van
Rennlist Member
 
Van's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Hyde Park, NY
Posts: 12,007
Received 88 Likes on 58 Posts
Default

Correct, toe in is a positive #. Negative # means you have toe OUT.



Quick Reply: alignment settings



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 03:10 AM.