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Old 04-20-2016, 01:25 AM
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Yes Porsche know what they are doing, I'm not running that big a cam really, on the bench it went up to 418 at .599"
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Originally Posted by thingo
Yes Porsche know what they are doing, I'm not running that big a cam really, on the bench it went up to 418 at .599"
Damn man. That's hard to beat. That's a ton of air. Wonder if the 928 Dohc can flow like this or if it's the exclusive to the 968 and s2 heads.

That's impressive. Pat's was flowing a ton as well so there consistency there.
Good things coming.
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928 dohc intake ports are much smaller, S2 are close but still smaller.

968 ports are even slightly bigger than 968 gasket.


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Old 04-20-2016, 09:08 AM
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That's lots of air moving I should really buy a 16V head. I have four 2V head sitting in my house right now. Maybe it should be two 4V heads. All these 16V engines are giving me the itch that needs scratching
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I think we all have to take the absolute flow numbers in the same context as dyno results. It's as subjectively based on barometric conditions and also if they calculate correctly. The Porsche 16v heads were clearly well designed that many years ago. Even in stock form they are vastly superior to the most worked 8v heads.
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Originally Posted by thingo
The head has ferrea valves, 1mm over stock(40/34), on the bench it flowed 401@.500 (28")
holy s***
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
I think we all have to take the absolute flow numbers in the same context as dyno results. It's as subjectively based on barometric conditions and also if they calculate correctly. The Porsche 16v heads were clearly well designed that many years ago. Even in stock form they are vastly superior to the most worked 8v heads.
Makes me wonder if they know just how right they got it.
I'm thinking maybe. Possibly the reason no 16v Turbo was made and after the 968 they shut the party down.
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Originally Posted by AlphaOmegaPower
Makes me wonder if they know just how right they got it.
I'm thinking maybe. Possibly the reason no 16v Turbo was made and after the 968 they shut the party down.
off-topic but...
the 4v 944/968 and 928 combustion chamber design (and some say valves and parts) were used on the 959 as well.

so they knew they were good!

but sales were slumping hard in the 90s for the 968 and 928, and they had been building each platform for nearly 20 years at that point and the market had moved on.

remember, early 90s you could get an RX7 turbo, or a Supra turbo, or 3000GT VR4, etc for half the price of a 968, and all of those cars had 20% more power.
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So work is back on with this thing, we had a few issues to address before we can get back out for testing. Changed injectors, now just one large set, changed the exhaust manifold a little and we have gone from two 38mm wastegates to two 50mm, that should take care of our boost creep and wastegate problems.






We put a 1.45 turbine housing on and got it back on the dyno, this run doesn't do it full justice, a lot of wheel spin(and the dyno is a heartbreaker anyway), we know from the tuning runs we have met our 800bhp figure ,and that is about all we can get from this combination, the turbo is at close to max speed and we don't want to push the block any further, not a lot of timing in the tune.






Aim to test in a week or two.
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Holy **** that torque curve is INSANE!
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Originally Posted by thingo
So work is back on with this thing, we had a few issues to address before we can get back out for testing. Changed injectors, now just one large set, changed the exhaust manifold a little and we have gone from two 38mm wastegates to two 50mm, that should take care of our boost creep and wastegate problems.


We put a 1.45 turbine housing on and got it back on the dyno, this run doesn't do it full justice, a lot of wheel spin(and the dyno is a heartbreaker anyway), we know from the tuning runs we have met our 800bhp figure ,and that is about all we can get from this combination, the turbo is at close to max speed and we don't want to push the block any further, not a lot of timing in the tune.


Aim to test in a week or two.
Do you have a link/source for the cam gears and belt...?

T
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Originally Posted by 951and944S
Do you have a link/source for the cam gears and belt...?

T
I got them with the cams from catcams
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What psi was this dyno run at?
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Originally Posted by AlphaOmegaPower
What psi was this dyno run at?
About 25psi, (1.75 bar)
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Originally Posted by thingo
About 25psi, (1.75 bar)
Impressive. Not seen a 4 cylinder make that power with that low a boost level except these engines.

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