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Old 03-20-2015, 07:42 AM
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Had a session yesterday with my new turbo. Turns out the T4 .68 house is to small, so we stopped at 1.1 bar boost. Notice how much blow through there is on the video, it is not hard to understand why cars with stock AOS have pressure problems. My modded AOS with 1 3/8" is to big. Air/Oil spearation is no problem on idle and high load, but during cruising there is not enough flow and the AOS dumps quite a lot of oil in the cath can. Made a band aid fix with a lid that restricted flow. New try is a opened up stock size AOS outlet.



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You don't run any additional breather hose from cam cover or other place?

Yours is 3.0? In that case .68 is too small indeed, my friend Kert had 3.0 16v and GT3582R with .82 hot side, changed it to 1.06 and did not loose any response, but gained 30 Nm instead without adjusting ignition..

Nevertheless, nice result!
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Originally Posted by Raceboy
You don't run any additional breather hose from cam cover or other place?

Yours is 3.0? In that case .68 is too small indeed, my friend Kert had 3.0 16v and GT3582R with .82 hot side, changed it to 1.06 and did not loose any response, but gained 30 Nm instead without adjusting ignition..

Nevertheless, nice result!
It is a 3.0. I decided to try the 68 to se how well it would work. Nevertheless I am happy with the result. I have ports for breather on top but decided to leave them out to get a more stock like appearance. In Norway my car is not even close to being street legal.

EDIT: Even tho the dyno plot of the two different turbos look identical, the feel of the smaller one is very different. I realize that a dyno does not tel anything about how the car actually is to drive. I am pretty sure that there is 1 bar boost at 3000ish RPM on 4. and maybe also 3.

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Nice results.

Not sure I understand the dip in the torque curve though, especially if the hotside is too small.

What turbine wheel do you have?
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You running a restrictor on the turbo oil line?
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There's no wheelspin to support that dip either?
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What turbo are you running with a T4 .68? Edit sorry found it 6266 with T4.68

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The dip looks like you're running 968 cams with variocam?

T4 0.68 is not that small but if you want to run above 1.1 bar it makes sense to increase it.
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Originally Posted by Thom
Nice results.

Not sure I understand the dip in the torque curve though, especially if the hotside is too small.

What turbine wheel do you have?
The turbo is a Precision 5866. Not sure why there is a dip, it might be because of a slight overboost. It has been this way with three different tuners and three different turbos.
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Originally Posted by thingo
You running a restrictor on the turbo oil line?
No restrictor , this is a journal bearing turbo.
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Originally Posted by gruhsy
What turbo are you running with a T4 .68? Edit sorry found it 6266 with T4.68
5866. The 3. turbo I am using on this car...
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Originally Posted by Duke
The dip looks like you're running 968 cams with variocam?

T4 0.68 is not that small but if you want to run above 1.1 bar it makes sense to increase it.
Stock S2 cams timed within Porsche spec. Just sold the car, so I'll leave it to the next owner to change to a larger exhaust house. Lost my garage so traded it for a Exige Cup 190, with some mods
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
There's no wheelspin to support that dip either?
It's a Dynapack so that would not be possible
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For what it's worth both the S2 and 968 feature dips in their officially-published factory torque curves. In the case of the S2 I would think it may be caused by a "restricted" tune, as the long runner intake should provide great ram effect between 2.5k and 3.5k rpm, where the dip occurs.

Do you mean you have some kind of overboost protection that may have kicked in at the moment of the dip?
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Originally Posted by Thom
For what it's worth both the S2 and 968 feature dips in their officially-published factory torque curves. In the case of the S2 I would think it may be caused by a "restricted" tune, as the long runner intake should provide great ram effect between 2.5k and 3.5k rpm, where the dip occurs.

Do you mean you have some kind of overboost protection that may have kicked in at the moment of the dip?
Previously there where a dip due to the boost getting higher around 4k because the boost where only controlled by the wg spring. The dip now could be because I asked him to be careful around peak torque. I would have to check the boost controller settings on my EMS to verify. If not this is the cause, I have no idea why this happens.

EDIT: He also told me he had some slight trouble controlling the boost. Looking at my first dyno that where 1 bar, the dip is not present. The only changes are the tune and turbo.


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