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Old 10-23-2014, 04:48 PM
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Default Wide front wheels, camber, no-rubbing?

I'm on the fence: I have a great pair of Speedline wheels with new 245/35-18 tires mounted on the front: will know tonight how it sets normally

Test-fit last night, did not put weight on the non-air'd tire (don't ask), but it appears the wheel/tire's outer edge is about 3/8" past the fender.

Will this tuck in with load enough to clear the tire?

Car has stock alignment, wondering if adding 1/2 degree negative camber would help: suggestions?

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Old 10-23-2014, 06:18 PM
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It should tuck, just max out the camber. Dont forget to correct toe.
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I don't want to max out the camber so much that it chews up my pricey 245/35-18 street tires on my street car. I can see 1 degree or maybe 1.5.

How much camber can typically be had via strut adjustments alone? (Not a track car so I don't have camber plates)

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Old 10-23-2014, 09:27 PM
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I don't think it will clear. The camber eccentric on the front struts is about halfway up the wheel, so based on a quick calculation it would take 1.66 degrees of static negative camber [in addition to your current setting] to POSSIBLY clear the fender. I say possibly because this doesn't take into account your fender thickness, fender gap to top of tire or geometry change under load.
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I have KLA strut mounts (i.e. not camber plates) and am currently at about 2.1 degrees negative camber with a little bit more that I could go. BUT, my car is lowered somewhat (-1.5"...?), so that will add some negative camber as well.

You have to remember that the tire is actually pivoting about the ball joint. So if you assume a tire that's 25" and the ball joint is about 6" off the ground, then you would need roughly 1.1 degrees additional to be flush.

Honestly 3/8" isn't much at all... I doubt you will have any issues. My tire was sticking about 3/4" proud before I added some camber (to stock alignment). I wouldn't want to go much more though...

And yes, check toe after!
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Can you support the car as far out on the lower control arm as possible to load the suspension with the "flat" tire/wheel mounted? And re-measure. Also, checking how the strut is currently positioned on the knuckle will help with knowing if there's much room for a camber adjustment. Camber alone is not what kills tires. It's camber that has an incorrect toe adjustment. Think of it as a tire rolling 1 or 2 degrees tilted vs a tire that is scrubbing away at that angle.
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Originally Posted by Tsmith84
Can you support the car as far out on the lower control arm as possible to load the suspension with the "flat" tire/wheel mounted? And re-measure. Also, checking how the strut is currently positioned on the knuckle will help with knowing if there's much room for a camber adjustment. Camber alone is not what kills tires. It's camber that has an incorrect toe adjustment. Think of it as a tire rolling 1 or 2 degrees tilted vs a tire that is scrubbing away at that angle.
Exactly. I run -3°camber and zero toe up front, and my tires don't get chewed up anymore.
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I have a silver rose and 245 45 17 on the front at stock camber with no rubbing.

Late offset fikses.

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It will depend heavily on the offset of the wheel. The OP's wheels are likely a lower ET (effective) than stock.
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Is there a resource/reference on what width+offset+tire width will fit on these cars (early offset in particular).

I want to eventually rebarrel my BBS RS's and I could make them almost any width and offset, would love to do a 8.5 in the front and 10 in the back. Would love to know what offsets work at similar sizes.
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Well my suspension is off: Driver's front tucks about 1/4", pass sticks out about 1/4". :/ I'll keep the car high until I pull the engine for the Andial kit & will adjust everything then. Looks great though.
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