Paul Waterloo

I have no idea, please school me.

Brantley

Yes, '86 and below, including the turbo, is early offset and will not work on '87+ cars... The biggest bummer about that being no fuchs on '87+ cars as they were all early offset.

Paul Waterloo

So if you have late offset wheels.....you need spacers to run them on early offset cars.....appears the early offset phone dials were ET23....so to get them to about ET50, you would need a 25 (ET48) or 30mm (ET53) spacer.

mdj577

Thanks Paul. Looks like the inside of my Phones are stamped with the following:


front - 7JX16 ET65
rear - 9JX16 ET60




-Mike

Paul Waterloo

Mike-

That's odd....sounds like you have some 928 wheels....or you have spacers already installed. If you want to drive your car over this weekend, I would be happy to let you try them on the car to see if they fit.

Paul

bumflick

Paul, I lost you part way through the that.

You said "So if you have late offset wheels.....you need spacers to run them on early offset cars....."
Agreed

"..appears the early offset phone dials were ET23"
No idea, I will take your word for it

"....so to get them to about ET50, you would need a 25 (ET48) or 30mm (ET53) spacer."
I don't understand this - I think it is the opposite - to get an ET 50 wheel to an effective ET20 offset (so it will work on an early offset car) you need the spacers.

I think this is what you said at the start of your post, but it seemed to take a left turn in the last bit.

Not trying to be picky - just want to make sure I understand. I have an early offset car and have been looking for a good 17" staggered set up.

mdj577

Paul, good point on the off sets.

Maybe someone else here can help with this? I will try to attach a pic of the car here as well.

mdj577

Again, the Blue car above has: front - 7JX16 ET65, rear - 9JX16 ET60 stamped on the wheels. Are these originally from a 951? Or perhaps another car (928).

Realized this looking at Paul's wheels that he is selling.


-Mike

black944 turbo

its hard to tell from your picture, however they appear to be 23.3 mm early wheels to me. The early wheels are very easy to id as they have a large lip on the rear especially and late wheels have no lip and the "phone section" sticks out past the lip. Attached is a photo of my fully polished 23.3 mm early wheels.

black944 turbo

As others have stated, you certainly can run late wheels on an '86 however you need to run spacers. I have a set of polished Cup wheels in 17" that I prefer the looks of over these.

Also sorry for the poor photo, if you need any others let me know.

mdj577

Those polished wheels look very nice. Did you polish them yourself or buy them that way? If you did it, how difficult/time consuming was it.

black944 turbo

Thanks md, I did them myself. This project is not for the faint of heart, it took me 3 years and no finger prints to do it. I love the results, but I like everyone else that has done it would never do it again to these wheels.

mel_t_vin

Mike, I don't doubt what you're saying, but could you post up a photo of the markings you're looking at?

IIRC, neither early or late offset PDs were made in a 9", aluminum, fitment. The only 9" PD I'm aware of was made of magnesium and fitted to the rear of the M754 escort/turbo cup cars.

And if you have a pair of those rears, they would certainly be worth more $$$ than standard PDs.

mdj577

Mel- I will have the car back next week. Will try to get a photo then. The codes I put here were given to me by my mechanic. I don't think he would be making a mistake. Regardless that would pretty neat if these were the wheels you are talking about.

What do you think about the offsets? They don't seem typical from what I gather searching around.


-Mike

black944 turbo

I have never heard of that offset on any phone dials, as I said before your wheels appear to be normal 86 turbo phones. If you have mg phones, I am up for a trade!!