Dom_962

Hi all

I'm currently building a 944 Turbo in Australia.. and we are toying around the idea or mounting a Sequential transaxle in the car..

My question to the 944 people, is how many people have done it, and what type did they install?

I know that this will cost upwards of 10K but we are trying to see if there is a prefer Sequential gearbox? is there a transaxle easier to fit then another..

at the moment im leaning towards the Hewland but are they any other suggestions i should look into?

Cheers

Dominic Martens

333pg333

Dominic, there's only one SQ 'transaxled' 944 in the world as far as I'm aware and it's in Melbourne. If you can get one into your car for anywhere near $20k you'll be cheating. The guy whose shop built this yellow car quoted me over $50k to 'drive in, drive away' for the same thing completely installed. Even though he's somewhat over the top in that amount, there was a lot of cut and fabbing work according to him. It is an Albins, it's not one of the ones that has gone into the C.O.T.F. V8's. The gearbox itself would cost not much less than $27k by the time you specified and paid for all the custom cogs. I made pretty serious inquiries about doing the same thing but in the end it was a lot of $$ for probably less than 2 seconds advantage at somewhere like Phillip Island. Maybe 1.5 secs at Eastern Creek.

What car is this intended for? Have we seen this car before? Are you the owner of the Yellow 962 rep in Sydney?

thingo

I would've thought the albins would be worth considering,at a glance it seems better value.

fred27

Try Quaife Engineering

333pg333

There's not many that are built for over 500ft/lbs of torque.

Dom_962

This is intended for a 944 turbo race car that is being built in QLD, There is only a handful of people who have seen the car but i've been around PCQ for ages, my father was the president some time ago..

We are trying to build the Lightest 944 Turbo in Aus, current weight is 800KG and we are sure we can lower this.. home made carbon fibre parts are being constructed as we speak..

I know that there is a lot of fabrication but i was told that there is a quafie, Hewland and even a 997 SQ that would all fit.. I have also read that a Corvette Transaxle can fit and there are plenty of SQ gearbox for those...

I could understand 50K for having one installed in a Road car.. but i have been told 10-15k for the gearbox and 5K for the instalment.. note that we have cut away almost the whole read end Like Tong G car..

Note that 2 sec is a far amount of time plus you could get more customization as you could change ratios as needed for each track

Note that the V8s Transaxle would be a perfect fit apart from the cost..

So are there any guy out there that have SQ installed???

333pg333

If you can get a 951 anywhere near 800kg’s it won’t be the lightest one in Australia. It will be the lightest one in the known Universe. Since a stock one weighs around 1300kgs I think what you are currently weighing isn’t complete. Tony G’s is about 1020kgs dry or mine with carbon doors, c/f hood, lexan windows (except front windscreen) f/g fenders all round + bumper/nose panel and it’s going to be about 1120kgs wet. I’m sorry but I am having difficulty believing 800kgs.
Photos are welcome.

Of course you can fit any gearbox you want if you’re prepared to cut and fab the car to pieces. Not a problem.
The $50k was quoted to match what this Yellow Race car has. It’s the only 944 with a sequential gearbox in the world.
The gearbox is an Albins and it starts at $18,500 with 4 speeds iirc. You then specify your extra gearsets and pay quite a lot for them. The cost of a 6 speed including the shifter is somewhere around the $26k mark.
Then there is custom axles and CV's. He didn't discuss it at great length and I know he's over the top in terms of his quote for the whole job but it did sound pretty complex.

There was another guy in the US who fitted a complete Corvette rear end but I understand that never quite got sorted. Lot of chasing roll centres etc...

Be sure to keep us in the loop with your build.

Duke

There isn't many seq transaxles available so that limits choices. The 996/997 boxes would need to be modified as they need to be rotated so we don't get 6 reverse gears.

Quaife have a seq box with 996 outer dimensions that could be a very good candidate. The issue is that it's recommended for max 450 bhp...
http://quaife.co.uk/shop/products/qbe61g

thingo

As I said at a cursory glance the albins here seems pretty suitable to me, for a sequential it is not through the roof as far as price, and you can get anything to fit if you need to...

333pg333

Thanks Rod...you just reminded me that I was quoting on a Hewland box in that Yellow car. It's Albins. Just too much flying through my brain at the moment and mixed up my suppliers.

reno808

Spends $50K on seq box
Spends $20.00 on exhaust
HAHA

Duke

The last two pics are obviously from another car, the one with Corvette transaxle and rear suspension and not the one with the seq box.

TonyG

Concerning weight....

Mine is 2265 dry with 2 fuel cells. If I were to take out the front 35 gallon fuel cell and associated hardware, the car would easily be 50lbs lighter.

Other than that, I don't see how you could really get the car much less than 2200lbs. You could use smaller brakes and smaller wheels to get the weight down further, but still it wouldn't be much below roughly 2180 lbs. ish...

The other thing is that you're going to see a lot of boxter PDK transmissions soon on salvage market. They are heavier than sequential boxes, but shift faster than standard sequential boxes. I wonder how much power they will hold...

TonyG

TonyG

I was thinking the same thing.... :-)


TonyG

alxdgr8

There are some Audi's out there with sequential 01E's. The one guy I know with one has this:
http://www.sqsracing.com/produkt/354...di-quattro-01e

Although I believe he sent it back for some work and has resorted back to a standard shifter with his dogbox AWD 01E in the meantime. He makes 760awhp/550awtq (9.3@153 in the quarter)

Probably could be converted to work with a 968 01E.