I am not mature enough...
09-14-2012, 09:03 PM
#31
I have the escort passport 9500ix, its awesome it reads KA band around corners easily and has the function where the gps figures out bogus signals and stops alerting to them.
The biggest difference I noticed is that without one I forget to keep an eye out for cops and cruise along at 80-85 not even thinking about it but the detector reminds me to be vigilant
The biggest difference I noticed is that without one I forget to keep an eye out for cops and cruise along at 80-85 not even thinking about it but the detector reminds me to be vigilant
09-14-2012, 09:27 PM
#32
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Maybe it's just my OCD, but I've never had trouble spotting cops several miles ahead. That may also be due to Florida's straight, flat roads that make every little hill good for a 3-5 mile peek down the road.
Caveat: I was 18-19 years old, heading to college, I'm late (not usual for me), and speeding, egregiously. This is a 2.5L I6 BMW Z3... automatic. Laugh it up, but damn did that car pulled tail like nothing
. Anyway, I round the last banked curve and there's a tanker in the right lane next to me that is fighting to stay in his lane. I decide that I'd rather be ahead of him than behind if he were to lose it, so I nail the gas, hit about 90mph annnnnnnnd speed trap. The FHP trooper had the ***** to actually walk out in the lane of traffic to stop me (seriously, why would they do that?) He then got me for expired insurance (the new card was sitting at home, I was 4 days expired). Whatever, ~$10 ticket and if I show proof of insurance in court it gets dropped. The 90mph in a 55mph (remember the car I was in... getting to that speed didn't happen "quickly") ticket on the other hand was around $400. The wonderful FHP trooper manage to goof up and write the same infraction # on both the speeding ticket and the insurance ticket, yet wrote out what each infraction was on each ticket. When they entered the tickets into the system they entered them as two speeding tickets. I sent my $10 in for the insurance ticket and had a lawyer handle the 90 in a 55, everything works out and I figure I'm in the clear. One month later I get a letter in the mail saying my license is going to be revoked on X date for failure to pay a speeding ticket. Long story short, I talked to the CO of the FHP officer that wrote the tickets, he got chewed out, and the situation resolved itself in about 3 days. The real lesson learned: the gears of justice move faster when you know who to bother.
Caveat: I was 18-19 years old, heading to college, I'm late (not usual for me), and speeding, egregiously. This is a 2.5L I6 BMW Z3... automatic. Laugh it up, but damn did that car pulled tail like nothing
. Anyway, I round the last banked curve and there's a tanker in the right lane next to me that is fighting to stay in his lane. I decide that I'd rather be ahead of him than behind if he were to lose it, so I nail the gas, hit about 90mph annnnnnnnd speed trap. The FHP trooper had the ***** to actually walk out in the lane of traffic to stop me (seriously, why would they do that?) He then got me for expired insurance (the new card was sitting at home, I was 4 days expired). Whatever, ~$10 ticket and if I show proof of insurance in court it gets dropped. The 90mph in a 55mph (remember the car I was in... getting to that speed didn't happen "quickly") ticket on the other hand was around $400. The wonderful FHP trooper manage to goof up and write the same infraction # on both the speeding ticket and the insurance ticket, yet wrote out what each infraction was on each ticket. When they entered the tickets into the system they entered them as two speeding tickets. I sent my $10 in for the insurance ticket and had a lawyer handle the 90 in a 55, everything works out and I figure I'm in the clear. One month later I get a letter in the mail saying my license is going to be revoked on X date for failure to pay a speeding ticket. Long story short, I talked to the CO of the FHP officer that wrote the tickets, he got chewed out, and the situation resolved itself in about 3 days. The real lesson learned: the gears of justice move faster when you know who to bother.
09-14-2012, 10:10 PM
#33
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Jamming police lasers is delicious.
And in the US, we can even argue with the cop that pulled you over, whereas in other countries... the police can pull you out of the car, beat you, take a dump on your seat, and hand you your ticket.
Thats all.
09-14-2012, 10:56 PM
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115 mph is the perfect top cruising speed on lonely interstates with good surface conditions, visibility and light traffic... i've rarely had to ***** to try doing it for more than a few miles..... i've gone faster a few times. i've toped 158 [verified] a handful of times on a 10 mile straight out [in the Dakota region with almost no police coverage].... it can be done and the car is amazing, but mostly, on long interstate drives, i have it wound up between 80~90... i try to maintain 3,500 rpm [87.5 mph], and 15~20 mph over the limit on lonely twisties. guess i'm pretty dull.
09-14-2012, 11:10 PM
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I think a lot of laws are double edged. Allowing you guys to have laser jammers seems to be in-line with your general wild west constitution of each person having the rights to protect themselves at all times. I like it to a degree, but I'll never agree with the way your gun laws have been misconstrued. Having said that, you'd think that Australia would follow the U.S. mindset in many aspects, but we live in a Nanny state where the govt has too much control and this leads to graft and corruption. Never mind all the do-gooders who blithely follow and nod sheep-like in agreeance to each new law passed 'for the good of the public'. So we have a general public that can't drive to save themselves and the govt who won't take responsibility of mandating new regulations regarding driving standards/education. Rather, they increase all the speed cameras, fines, unmarked vans operated by independent contractors who gather their commission by fining people driving along straight bits of hwy where there are no accidents. If this happened in the U.S. I think there'd be lynch mobs.
I could buy a laser jammer and put it in my car but we're told that the cops have radar detector detectors and maybe jammer detectors. If they zap you driving along faster than the other people, yet they can't get a read, they'd pull you over and search your car. If they find any of these devices it's quite possibly a jailable offense. You'd go to court and at the very least get a massive fine and lose your license for at least 1 year.
The moral to this rant is that I don't bother with a Porsche for the street. I've got a ****ty old ford sedan that I don't care about, has dings and scratches and is an auto. The only good thing about it is that I can practice L.F.B. all day long, I don't care if someone crashes into it and it blends into the urban masses. Driving in a country that is probably the 90% the size of the U.S. landmass with only 14% of your population should be fun...in most cases it's not. No point having a good car down here in my opinion. Sad to say.
Oh, and I think our cops use a different type of laser down here than yours do. I'm lead to believe that your detectors don't work as well and perhaps our cops can get a read off of them enough to pull you over for emitting whatever waves radar detectors do. I might have that a bit wrong but that was my general understanding.
I could buy a laser jammer and put it in my car but we're told that the cops have radar detector detectors and maybe jammer detectors. If they zap you driving along faster than the other people, yet they can't get a read, they'd pull you over and search your car. If they find any of these devices it's quite possibly a jailable offense. You'd go to court and at the very least get a massive fine and lose your license for at least 1 year.
The moral to this rant is that I don't bother with a Porsche for the street. I've got a ****ty old ford sedan that I don't care about, has dings and scratches and is an auto. The only good thing about it is that I can practice L.F.B. all day long, I don't care if someone crashes into it and it blends into the urban masses. Driving in a country that is probably the 90% the size of the U.S. landmass with only 14% of your population should be fun...in most cases it's not. No point having a good car down here in my opinion. Sad to say.
Oh, and I think our cops use a different type of laser down here than yours do. I'm lead to believe that your detectors don't work as well and perhaps our cops can get a read off of them enough to pull you over for emitting whatever waves radar detectors do. I might have that a bit wrong but that was my general understanding.
09-14-2012, 11:24 PM
#36
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While I'm a fervent supporter of the 2nd Amendment, I will concede that there should be greater control. In regards to how the law is construed, I will defer to this scene in the American-classic "Team America: World Police"
09-15-2012, 12:01 AM
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That was a great movie, agreed.
So far only one case of a baby eaten by Dingo as far as I know. Adding more guns to combat what are already out there with the concept of "Oh well, what can we do now. Better get me a gun just in case. It's my right as an American to own one anyways" is a bit sad and worrying. It's happening here but mostly bikers and Muslim Lebanese. So far, the public hasn't gone for the protect my patch at all cost mentality. We keep assuming that the crooks will just kill each other, but the wrong people do get killed/injured with the fallout. Really don't want to take this thread any further OT than I already have.
To get back on topic, I think that when you have a turbo car the temptation to just mash the throttle one more time for that kick is just too hard to avoid. It really is like a drug dependency. So easy to access too. I put my hand up as an abuser of this. That's why it's better that I don't have one for the street.
So far only one case of a baby eaten by Dingo as far as I know. Adding more guns to combat what are already out there with the concept of "Oh well, what can we do now. Better get me a gun just in case. It's my right as an American to own one anyways" is a bit sad and worrying. It's happening here but mostly bikers and Muslim Lebanese. So far, the public hasn't gone for the protect my patch at all cost mentality. We keep assuming that the crooks will just kill each other, but the wrong people do get killed/injured with the fallout. Really don't want to take this thread any further OT than I already have.
To get back on topic, I think that when you have a turbo car the temptation to just mash the throttle one more time for that kick is just too hard to avoid. It really is like a drug dependency. So easy to access too. I put my hand up as an abuser of this. That's why it's better that I don't have one for the street.
09-15-2012, 12:09 AM
#38
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I think a lot of laws are double edged. Allowing you guys to have laser jammers seems to be in-line with your general wild west constitution of each person having the rights to protect themselves at all times. I like it to a degree, but I'll never agree with the way your gun laws have been misconstrued. Having said that, you'd think that Australia would follow the U.S. mindset in many aspects, but we live in a Nanny state where the govt has too much control and this leads to graft and corruption. Never mind all the do-gooders who blithely follow and nod sheep-like in agreeance to each new law passed 'for the good of the public'. So we have a general public that can't drive to save themselves and the govt who won't take responsibility of mandating new regulations regarding driving standards/education. Rather, they increase all the speed cameras, fines, unmarked vans operated by independent contractors who gather their commission by fining people driving along straight bits of hwy where there are no accidents. If this happened in the U.S. I think there'd be lynch mobs.
I could buy a laser jammer and put it in my car but we're told that the cops have radar detector detectors and maybe jammer detectors. If they zap you driving along faster than the other people, yet they can't get a read, they'd pull you over and search your car. If they find any of these devices it's quite possibly a jailable offense. You'd go to court and at the very least get a massive fine and lose your license for at least 1 year.
The moral to this rant is that I don't bother with a Porsche for the street. I've got a ****ty old ford sedan that I don't care about, has dings and scratches and is an auto. The only good thing about it is that I can practice L.F.B. all day long, I don't care if someone crashes into it and it blends into the urban masses. Driving in a country that is probably the 90% the size of the U.S. landmass with only 14% of your population should be fun...in most cases it's not. No point having a good car down here in my opinion. Sad to say.
Oh, and I think our cops use a different type of laser down here than yours do. I'm lead to believe that your detectors don't work as well and perhaps our cops can get a read off of them enough to pull you over for emitting whatever waves radar detectors do. I might have that a bit wrong but that was my general understanding.
I could buy a laser jammer and put it in my car but we're told that the cops have radar detector detectors and maybe jammer detectors. If they zap you driving along faster than the other people, yet they can't get a read, they'd pull you over and search your car. If they find any of these devices it's quite possibly a jailable offense. You'd go to court and at the very least get a massive fine and lose your license for at least 1 year.
The moral to this rant is that I don't bother with a Porsche for the street. I've got a ****ty old ford sedan that I don't care about, has dings and scratches and is an auto. The only good thing about it is that I can practice L.F.B. all day long, I don't care if someone crashes into it and it blends into the urban masses. Driving in a country that is probably the 90% the size of the U.S. landmass with only 14% of your population should be fun...in most cases it's not. No point having a good car down here in my opinion. Sad to say.
Oh, and I think our cops use a different type of laser down here than yours do. I'm lead to believe that your detectors don't work as well and perhaps our cops can get a read off of them enough to pull you over for emitting whatever waves radar detectors do. I might have that a bit wrong but that was my general understanding.
Over here in NJ, if you are pulled over for a traffic violation, and there happens to be a loaded gun on the passenger seat in plain view, you're in trouble. Big trouble. Police cars are everywhere, and it feels like the SWAT team arrived.
In Florida or Texas, if you are pulled over, and happen to have a gun, they ask for your permit/license. They take your paperwork, lay your firearm on the hood of their car, and write you a ticket. They come back to your window, and say "OK sir, here's your license, registration, insurance, firearm, and here's your speeding ticket. Have a good day and slow down".
Whats the difference between the NJ and Texas? Well, in NJ most people do not have a gun, but there sure are a lot a gun related murders in Newark, Camdem, and Irvington... and probably less than in states where its easy to get a gun license.
Im not an expert on the topic, but I think that tightening up gun laws here in the US would just make it harder for an honest civilian to get a gun. Those on the other side of the law have always had guns and will always have guns, legal or not.
I have heard that enforcement for traffic laws are very strict in your country, and it sure is a shame. I believe we are headed in the same direction, and maybe only a few years from being just as strict as Australia. Basically, we will be getting more speed and red light cameras as legislature proves they lower traffic related fatalities and generate millions in revenue. You'd think there'd be a mob of protesters, but it doesn't work that way here.
It starts off with a few random red light cameras. As the year goes on, more and more start to appear. 2 or 3 years later, speed cameras appear, and we accept them after seeing several videos showing tragic incidents that could have been prevented by tighter speed enforcement. People are too busy between work and family to protest, and it goes uncontested.
The Laser jammers will jam any laser gun in any country, as long as it works with a laser. The only difference is that it jams it for 8 seconds, warning you to slow down and bring your car to the speed limit during that window of invisibility, so that the officer gets reads your speed...which shouldn't raise much suspicion.
In states where jammers are illegal, punishment is heavy as well. Your car is impounded, and the entire installation is removed at the impound...and probably not as carefully as it was installed. Not to mention they give you the bill along with the fines...
waaaaayyyyyyyy off topic....hahaha
09-15-2012, 12:24 AM
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Agree with you centinments there Patrick wrt the Aussie scene. I carried a escort passport 8500 I think it was for 10 years doing a lot of country driving in Vic. The cops here were so lazy (country hwys), driving around with them on full blast, it was so easy. I lost it to a wylie copper in the end who saw my brake lights come on at night in sync. That went to court, five hundred fine and zero demerit points, pretty damn happy with my lawyer.
09-15-2012, 12:25 AM
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Agree with your points above Lee.
Hey Hally, you do drop in from the clouds at random moments.
Hey Hally, you do drop in from the clouds at random moments.
09-15-2012, 12:38 AM
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09-15-2012, 05:28 AM
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Where I come from, England, I only ever heard of two gun crimes within 70 miles of me in my whole 24 years of life there, one of them a farmer shot some trespassers on his land and went to court, not sure of the outcome.
Another a guy ended up getting shot by police for holding people hostage with a shotgun, it ended up being a table leg ha ha.
Since I have lived in LA, 3 years, you hear of gun related murders daily and now and again I hear gun shots near my house.
I friend of mine was telling me that he was driving down the freeway and heard a loud bang, he thought it was a stone but when he arrived home he found a bullet hole in the b pillar just behind his head! he called the cops and they came took statments etc but said that nothing had been reported in the area so they really couldn't do anything, they also said that it happens a lot more often than you'd think.
Thats pretty compelling evidence for gun laws.
Having said this, since I got my green card a year ago I now have a glock 19 and a ruger 10/22. I love to shoot and also like the protection, the glock is in the draw next to me right now with hollow points ready to go.
I think lee is right, making new laws will restrict the likes of me, not gang bangers and other such criminals, either take everything and make damn sure the streets are clear of weapons or leave us alone!
Oh and just to keep a little on the subject of speed, its the only law I break daily, but I seriously think that me going 80mph with full concerntration is far better than the people I see doing 60 with coffee in one hand and a phone in the other!! how many times have you guys seen women doing their makup in the car, who in their right mind puts a stick near their eye while driving
I don't know, unfortunatly we don't get to make the laws, just come here and bitch about them
Another a guy ended up getting shot by police for holding people hostage with a shotgun, it ended up being a table leg ha ha.
Since I have lived in LA, 3 years, you hear of gun related murders daily and now and again I hear gun shots near my house.
I friend of mine was telling me that he was driving down the freeway and heard a loud bang, he thought it was a stone but when he arrived home he found a bullet hole in the b pillar just behind his head! he called the cops and they came took statments etc but said that nothing had been reported in the area so they really couldn't do anything, they also said that it happens a lot more often than you'd think.
Thats pretty compelling evidence for gun laws.
Having said this, since I got my green card a year ago I now have a glock 19 and a ruger 10/22. I love to shoot and also like the protection, the glock is in the draw next to me right now with hollow points ready to go.
I think lee is right, making new laws will restrict the likes of me, not gang bangers and other such criminals, either take everything and make damn sure the streets are clear of weapons or leave us alone!
Oh and just to keep a little on the subject of speed, its the only law I break daily, but I seriously think that me going 80mph with full concerntration is far better than the people I see doing 60 with coffee in one hand and a phone in the other!! how many times have you guys seen women doing their makup in the car, who in their right mind puts a stick near their eye while driving
I don't know, unfortunatly we don't get to make the laws, just come here and bitch about them
09-15-2012, 11:24 PM
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To get back on topic, I think that when you have a turbo car the temptation to just mash the throttle one more time for that kick is just too hard to avoid. It really is like a drug dependency. So easy to access too. I put my hand up as an abuser of this. That's why it's better that I don't have one for the street.
09-16-2012, 02:06 PM
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Hell, the only reason I'm not getting a ticket once a month is because I blew out my tranny racing some goof on the street. I've been arrested for doing 156 in a 35, and then trying to evade. It's a hell of a story and I'll post it if you guys want, but that's the gist of it. Tranny should be back in a couple of weeks. Couple that with new upgrades, I'm already getting ready to send money to my attorney on retainer.
However, Lee, that lazer jammer looks pretty cool. My questions is, can they detect them? Can it work with a Valentine 1 radar detector without diminshinge the other's capability?
However, Lee, that lazer jammer looks pretty cool. My questions is, can they detect them? Can it work with a Valentine 1 radar detector without diminshinge the other's capability?