TonyG > New Race Car Build Thread
01-11-2013, 04:42 AM
#346
Rennlist Member
Hi Patrick,
I was talking about Filip's, a truly perfect 968:
https://rennlist.com/forums/968-foru...s-replica.html
I was talking about Filip's, a truly perfect 968:
https://rennlist.com/forums/968-foru...s-replica.html
ps...sorry Tony. Hope you don't mind a little bit of OT in your thread. It's unavoidable but at least it's 951 related.
01-11-2013, 05:32 AM
#347
Three Wheelin'
That is also a serious car! Haven't seen him on the track a lot lately, last year i think he only did one race. I went to his shop to get a rim repaired but as he wasn't there himself i didn't have a chance to take a serious look at his car..
I hope i can get some video's from Filip's car at February 3rd at the 4h Endurance that day!
I hope i can get some video's from Filip's car at February 3rd at the 4h Endurance that day!
01-11-2013, 07:45 AM
#348
Rennlist Member
Yes, get video please!
01-11-2013, 09:43 PM
#352
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The work will be on the nose. I'm taking out the fog light holes and need to get some head lights in the front. Plus there's the opening to feed the heat exchangers, etc...
What are you referring to re: rear clips ?
TonyG
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01-11-2013, 10:17 PM
#354
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Tony, you've probably thought of this but you might want to have some good screen on the back side of the oil coolers. They are going to get a lot of track junk thrown at them by those tires. Especially if you happen to have an off into the gravel.
01-11-2013, 10:22 PM
#355
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TonyG
01-12-2013, 12:02 AM
#356
I totally agree with you Tony. That car is amazing... I can totally appreciate what you are doing there. I can only hope that one day I can do the next notch higher. LOL
A good used 996 cup car is over $75k. A good 997 cup car is well over $100k. And by good, I'm talking about one that still has considerable time left on the drive train.
Cup car axles are $6500/set, cup car engine rebuilds cost about $22k/30-35 hours assuming no major failure (which is about 1 season), transmission rebuild costs at around $15k (again.. per season) Then there's the $10/gallon race fuel.
So... once you have the car, you're still going to spend a good $30k+ per season (or more) on the drive train, assuming no major failures. Yeah... maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones that can go a little more... but if you have a major failure because you took your chances..... you're gonna pay a lot more. Either way... you're gonna pay the man.
And BTW... I see this go on and on and on with a good dozen of my friends that race these cars. The big dollar expenses never stop.
That said.... I could certainly buy a used cup car knowing that it's gonna take a big chunk of ongoing cash to keep it on the track. But why?
OR
I could build my 944. Spend about $80k. Clearly beat 996 cup cars and probably all 997 cup cars as well.
In fact... there's never been a 911 (other than a RSR) that's ever lapped WSIR as fast as ORCA... and the car I'm building will be a full notch above ORCA, built and setup by the very person that built ORCA.
Then there's the fact that my engine rebuild costs about $4k every other season. And... I run 91 octane pump fuel which represents another $4k per year savings over race fuel. And I'm using no custom fabricated parts. All the parts I'm using are factory Porsche parts so I can easily replace things if necessary.
That's why I'm doing what I'm doing. It's about winning a class championship against the best of the best, for about 1/3-1/2 the cost.
Then there's the sour look on their faces when they get beat by a 26 year old 944.... priceless. :-)
Plus... the car is just damn cool when I look at it in person.
TonyG
Cup car axles are $6500/set, cup car engine rebuilds cost about $22k/30-35 hours assuming no major failure (which is about 1 season), transmission rebuild costs at around $15k (again.. per season) Then there's the $10/gallon race fuel.
So... once you have the car, you're still going to spend a good $30k+ per season (or more) on the drive train, assuming no major failures. Yeah... maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones that can go a little more... but if you have a major failure because you took your chances..... you're gonna pay a lot more. Either way... you're gonna pay the man.
And BTW... I see this go on and on and on with a good dozen of my friends that race these cars. The big dollar expenses never stop.
That said.... I could certainly buy a used cup car knowing that it's gonna take a big chunk of ongoing cash to keep it on the track. But why?
OR
I could build my 944. Spend about $80k. Clearly beat 996 cup cars and probably all 997 cup cars as well.
In fact... there's never been a 911 (other than a RSR) that's ever lapped WSIR as fast as ORCA... and the car I'm building will be a full notch above ORCA, built and setup by the very person that built ORCA.
Then there's the fact that my engine rebuild costs about $4k every other season. And... I run 91 octane pump fuel which represents another $4k per year savings over race fuel. And I'm using no custom fabricated parts. All the parts I'm using are factory Porsche parts so I can easily replace things if necessary.
That's why I'm doing what I'm doing. It's about winning a class championship against the best of the best, for about 1/3-1/2 the cost.
Then there's the sour look on their faces when they get beat by a 26 year old 944.... priceless. :-)
Plus... the car is just damn cool when I look at it in person.
TonyG
01-12-2013, 12:08 AM
#357
Rennlist Junkie Forever
Thread Starter
You know... CF Funding would look good plastered across the side of the car on the race that's recapped on Speed Vision (Tribute to LeMans).
Just saying.....
Maybe you should purchase some ad real estate.
TonyG
01-12-2013, 01:39 AM
#359
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That's the club to advertise with considering the type of people that attend and participate.
TonyG