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Old 01-03-2013, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BC
Is there a diagram of that TT v6? That will need e85.
The engine makes 420hp at the crank stock, through stock exhaust, intake, and turbos.

Another 100hp is easily accomplished on pump gas when that's your starting point.

And no... E85 is out of the question. No need, expensive, unavailable, and not fuel efficient for endurance racing.

Pump 91 octane crap gas all the way baby!


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Thats whats holding me back from E85, not so much the cost but I would need a 200lt tank for endurance racing!
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Originally Posted by NZ951
Thats whats holding me back from E85, not so much the cost but I would need a 200lt tank for endurance racing!
Not only will you need more capacity, but potentially the size of the fuel lines and the delivery rate of the fuel pump could very well need to be larger as well.

I've heard you need another 35%+ greater fuel capacity and delivery rate. Plus any other parts that need to be converted due to fuel system compatibility.

You need more fuel capacity? Heck... I can barely do with 54 gallons of gasoline. E85 would make me do another fuel stop (at least).

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Originally Posted by TonyG
Not only will you need more capacity, but potentially the size of the fuel lines and the delivery rate of the fuel pump could very well need to be larger as well.

I've heard you need another 35%+ greater fuel capacity and delivery rate. Plus any other parts that need to be converted due to fuel system compatibility.

You need more fuel capacity? Heck... I can barely do with 54 gallons of gasoline. E85 would make me do another fuel stop (at least).

TonyG
Yup true... and then there is draining the fuel out after the race if your car is sitting around... PITA.
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Today's update...

Flipped intake, laying out heat exchangers.

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Damn its coming out way to nice to race
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Originally Posted by NZ951
Yup true... and then there is draining the fuel out after the race if your car is sitting around... PITA.
Meh...piffle. The benefits of running E85 far outweigh the negs...but I can see if you're doing endurance racing then the extra fuel needed would be a matter for consideration. Depends on what time advantages you can gain by running extra boost vs 91 pump. I'd be guessing in the region of at the very least 5 psi which over the course of lapping might warrant it?
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Originally Posted by NZ951
Yup true... and then there is draining the fuel out after the race if your car is sitting around... PITA.
I said ethanol. Not methanol.
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Originally Posted by TonyG
The engine makes 420hp at the crank stock, through stock exhaust, intake, and turbos.

Another 100hp is easily accomplished on pump gas when that's your starting point.

And no... E85 is out of the question. No need, expensive, unavailable, and not fuel efficient for endurance racing.

Pump 91 octane crap gas all the way baby!


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I'll drop it. Need? Can't argue that without knowing more. Expensive? Less expensive than 91 octane in San Diego. Unavailable? Maybe. I would assume you would buy it in large quantities.

Endurance racing I can see your point.
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Hey Tony,

Can you shoot a picture of your brake master setup? I don't recall seeing that in the previous pages, though maybe I missed it. I see it mounted in the old fuse box location. I assume it is an entire pedal assembly system? Just curious to see how you are doing it!
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Cowl induction - Coooool!
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Bit confused about this flipped intake which I presume involves the cowl induction? Where does it go from here?
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we like.....

http://www.vetteweb.com/tech/vemp_12...s/viewall.html

"Yes, the intake manifold shown in our lead photo is backwards. That's intentional, for reasons we'll go into in a moment....."
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Today's update... courtesy of your local Vision Motorsports race shop.....

Cowl Induction. This is only a mockup and is not done.....

Credit to: disasterman for the idea

The main reason we did it is to not have to interfere with the radiator ducting.

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Originally Posted by PorscheDoc
Hey Tony,

Can you shoot a picture of your brake master setup? I don't recall seeing that in the previous pages, though maybe I missed it. I see it mounted in the old fuse box location. I assume it is an entire pedal assembly system? Just curious to see how you are doing it!
See below

Tilton 620 pedal assembly with the master cylinders on top of the assembly instead of in the engine compartment.

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