UPDATE w/pics and current specs / Question: Adjustment to factory alignment specs?
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Ok attached is my most recent alignment.
The only difference between this and the previous is (as you can see) more camber. Car felt great at AX, and really felt great around the track, other than long turns where the car was loaded for a while. Wanted to push. For reference I also have Weltmeister sway bars on the car... front bar is full soft, rear bar is ~50%.
The only difference between this and the previous is (as you can see) more camber. Car felt great at AX, and really felt great around the track, other than long turns where the car was loaded for a while. Wanted to push. For reference I also have Weltmeister sway bars on the car... front bar is full soft, rear bar is ~50%.
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Rick, I ran -2 degrees of negative camber on the front of my 924S for years and never had a set of tires wear to the cord. I would have them "flipped" on the rims at around 10k miles, and I could get 20k+ miles out of a set of similarly-soft tires as these.
Your wear is definitely from too much toe.
Your wear is definitely from too much toe.
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yeah....that's the consensus. I reported the current specs to the shop and he agreed it's too much toe. He agreed to realign for free and provide me a spec sheet (now that I understand it a bit)
Headin' up there in twenty minutes.
Headin' up there in twenty minutes.
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I took the car back to the same shop for a "free" alignment after discussing with the co-owner.
After a while i saw one of the guys drive the car (test drive) and return. I was under the impression one of the co-owners (with lots of experience) did the alignment on cars like ours (they didn't say that though). Well, I the guy who i saw driving it stopped up front and I asked how it went? He said other than it was hot when he drove the car it was fine (I told him the A/C blows cold). I then asked about the specs. Yes, it was he who aligned it and truthfully I wasn't a fan.
Shortly they pulled the car up and I drove away. Less than a mile down the road I turned around. The car was trying to climb the curb on drivers side regardless of surface, road crown, etc.
I returned and got the co-owner who went on a drive with me. He said he had a flat place a few miles down the road. I told him it wouldn't take but a few blocks. Back to the shop.
This time the owner did the drive twice after adjustments and then gave the car back to me...it drives fine now.
I do have the spec sheet (at home).
I can't help but wonder what purpose the drive by the original technician was? Obvoiously the car pulled yet he didn't address that in any manner, shape or form.
I'll watch the tire wear though the specs seem to look good. I appreciate that the owner offered the free alignment and then after I got him involved made sure it was right....but, I am more than hesitant to return.
After a while i saw one of the guys drive the car (test drive) and return. I was under the impression one of the co-owners (with lots of experience) did the alignment on cars like ours (they didn't say that though). Well, I the guy who i saw driving it stopped up front and I asked how it went? He said other than it was hot when he drove the car it was fine (I told him the A/C blows cold). I then asked about the specs. Yes, it was he who aligned it and truthfully I wasn't a fan.
Shortly they pulled the car up and I drove away. Less than a mile down the road I turned around. The car was trying to climb the curb on drivers side regardless of surface, road crown, etc.
I returned and got the co-owner who went on a drive with me. He said he had a flat place a few miles down the road. I told him it wouldn't take but a few blocks. Back to the shop.
This time the owner did the drive twice after adjustments and then gave the car back to me...it drives fine now.
I do have the spec sheet (at home).
I can't help but wonder what purpose the drive by the original technician was? Obvoiously the car pulled yet he didn't address that in any manner, shape or form.
I'll watch the tire wear though the specs seem to look good. I appreciate that the owner offered the free alignment and then after I got him involved made sure it was right....but, I am more than hesitant to return.
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I once had a similar inside tire wear with better alignment numbers. It turned out that the lower ball joint(s) were bad.
Alignment is done statically and assumes all the steering and suspension joints are tight. If not, “all bets are off” (angles are off) when driving the car, in particular during braking and turning.
Alignment shops normally checks for wear first and don’t waste the customer’s money on an alignment, if there is too much play in the relevant steering and suspension joints.
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Alignment is done statically and assumes all the steering and suspension joints are tight. If not, “all bets are off” (angles are off) when driving the car, in particular during braking and turning.
Alignment shops normally checks for wear first and don’t waste the customer’s money on an alignment, if there is too much play in the relevant steering and suspension joints.
Laust
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I once had a similar inside tire wear with better alignment numbers. It turned out that the lower ball joint(s) were bad.
Alignment is done statically and assumes all the steering and suspension joints are tight. If not, “all bets are off” (angles are off) when driving the car, in particular during braking and turning.
Alignment shops normally checks for wear first and don’t waste the customer’s money on an alignment, if there is too much play in the relevant steering and suspension joints.
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Alignment is done statically and assumes all the steering and suspension joints are tight. If not, “all bets are off” (angles are off) when driving the car, in particular during braking and turning.
Alignment shops normally checks for wear first and don’t waste the customer’s money on an alignment, if there is too much play in the relevant steering and suspension joints.
Laust