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dirtyTurbo 03-20-2012 08:17 PM

Nice find! I paid almost twice that at autozone and one of them snapped less than a month later

Now find some for early cars :D

fortysixandtwo 03-20-2012 09:34 PM

Hmmm... 86 Vanagon: 95HP @ 4800RPM, 117FtLbs @ 3200RPM

I really hope these work as a bolt in replacement, that are at least as strong as the factory part.

On a separate note, it appears EMPI makes a lot of upgraded racing parts for VW based off road buggies. This includes Chromoly cages, 4340 housings, higher spline counts etc.... These are all features advertised for a certain, $600 a piece, racing axle. I even found a racing set for $400 (complete, both sides) in the 21-1/4 length.

LuigiVampa 03-20-2012 11:03 PM

Good find - I need to replace my axels. Any reason to believe these would be of any lessor quality than Pelican?

supes6 03-20-2012 11:08 PM

They will fit.. strength is a whole other issue though. The 951 part number axles are much stronger than the 944 ones, I snapped a bunch before caving and buying the real deal. I can't see any reason why they'd spec a beefier axle for something like the vanagon, they're most likely equal to or weaker than the 944 units.

carlege 03-20-2012 11:25 PM

cant think of a better car to stress test it than a V8

fortysixandtwo 03-21-2012 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by robstah (Post 9378814)
So what you are saying is that manufacturers build their products to only handle the horsepower rating of the application? If that were the case, they could have easily skipped on the heat treatment on the CVs and axles and saved even more money.

I'm guessing you took my statement of hoping these hold up as being sarcastic. It was actually meant to be sincere.

However..., since you mentioned it, I will say that manufactures do pick parts to align with the finished products capabilities. If a "better" part is available for the same cost, usually, it will be used. (This holds true for a vast majority of products engineered by large companies). The drive trains of our 944s' are a prime example of a manufacture making changes for different hp levels.

333pg333 03-21-2012 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by robstah (Post 9378814)

If you want a bulletproof setup, xschop sells built chromoly axles that have the bigger balls/cage setup and fix the stress-riser that is commonly found in the stock axles. You can find them here:

http://944hybrids.forumotion.com/t13...y-axles-855-up

Wonder how they compare compared to the LR offerings at a pretty similar price?

http://www.lindseyracing.com/LR/Parts/944CVAXLELR.html

fortysixandtwo 03-21-2012 05:00 AM

They're not that similarly priced. The Lindsey axles are priced each xschop's are sold as a pair.

333pg333 03-21-2012 05:31 AM

Haha, yes, a minor oversight. Didn't think I paid $1200 for the pair but so much stuff just blurrrrss$$$ that you forget. Still, be interesting to see if there are any differences?

kinglenario 03-21-2012 12:28 PM

for a street car definitely worth a try for that price.

zeusrotty 03-22-2012 05:22 PM

Xshops axles are on my short list. But then so are many of his parts...

Scott H 03-22-2012 11:39 PM

XSChop proves he's an asset to this community thread after thread. Nice work on the axles, would you mind disclosing who is running them? Or if you are running them feel free to chime in a on quality, fit, finish, etc. I'll wait to see how these Vanagon units hold up but if it's not up to OEM spec I'll probably be looking for a pair from XS or LR. I repacked and resealed all my stock CVs 18 months ago with the redline CV fluid, flipping the cages and hoping to get a little more wear out of them. This is all back when the car was drivable :)

Lemming 03-23-2012 06:15 PM

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Got mine today, too cheap not to try. Won't know how it holds up as it is going in the race-day spare box.

alex_cristocea 03-24-2012 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by robstah (Post 9379221)
...., just saw a reference to VW Vanagon numbers. ....

https://i.imgur.com/EBSiU.jpg

Do you have an reference VW Vanagon part number? I try to find a source for Vagon CV joint in EU.

Travis - sflraver 03-24-2012 03:42 PM

Hate to burst anyone's bubbles here but the VW cv joints are spec for 17º of movement where the porsche ones are 22º. When the cv reaches its end of movement and binds, it's going to push the snap ring off or worse bust the cage inside.
They are an "alternative" for street cars but I wouldn't put a set on the track. IMHO.. not without modification anyway.


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