Patrick's build thread. (IT RUNS!)
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Just about to go into crate. All the last little bits have been zipped up. Cams are adjustable. Covers have been made up to minimise any chance of belt hop.
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Finally made it....just.
It was picked up over a week ago. Then it lay in a depot for a couple of days before being finally loaded onto a plane. All sorts of emails back and forth between various parties but it was finally here about 5 days ago. Then more crap having to go through Quarantine. Finally late last Friday someone says it looks like it's clear to leave. I'll get it out to you on Monday (today). I phoned them mid morning to check progress and remind them that we only have access to a forklift until 4pm as we have to borrow it from another shop in the building. No sign of it by 2pm. I call them again. They say, yep it looks like he is about to pick it up shortly. Getting a little anxious as time is running out for today and really don't want it to go back to base again. Finally Paul text me to say the driver called him and said he's 5 mins away. Awesome. 45 mins later Paul texts again saying no sign of the truck. I call the shippers again and get put on hold. She comes back. "It's been delivered 1/2 an hour ago signed by Harry". Harry...half an hour ago?? Now I'm starting to imagine it is lost and someone shifty called Harry will disappear never to be seen again. Called Paul and he walked downstairs to see a crate sitting in someone else's dock. Phew!! It's been a long time coming. Now onto seeing if we can make it to the event this year. We'll put a solid week of work into it and decide.
It was picked up over a week ago. Then it lay in a depot for a couple of days before being finally loaded onto a plane. All sorts of emails back and forth between various parties but it was finally here about 5 days ago. Then more crap having to go through Quarantine. Finally late last Friday someone says it looks like it's clear to leave. I'll get it out to you on Monday (today). I phoned them mid morning to check progress and remind them that we only have access to a forklift until 4pm as we have to borrow it from another shop in the building. No sign of it by 2pm. I call them again. They say, yep it looks like he is about to pick it up shortly. Getting a little anxious as time is running out for today and really don't want it to go back to base again. Finally Paul text me to say the driver called him and said he's 5 mins away. Awesome. 45 mins later Paul texts again saying no sign of the truck. I call the shippers again and get put on hold. She comes back. "It's been delivered 1/2 an hour ago signed by Harry". Harry...half an hour ago?? Now I'm starting to imagine it is lost and someone shifty called Harry will disappear never to be seen again. Called Paul and he walked downstairs to see a crate sitting in someone else's dock. Phew!! It's been a long time coming. Now onto seeing if we can make it to the event this year. We'll put a solid week of work into it and decide.
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There looks to be a fair bit to do, So go get your hands dirty!!
A week into it and i think a lot of will be done. Unless there's other surprises. Are you carrying over the x-over + turbo ect?
A week into it and i think a lot of will be done. Unless there's other surprises. Are you carrying over the x-over + turbo ect?
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Yes, no time / $$ to make any changes like turbo etc. From what I understand the head on the 16v comes across the same distance on the exhaust side. So hoping that the headers/X-over all fit (once we convert the headers to 16v flanges). Then we will have to see what we've got on the intake side as far as room goes for the intake / runners etc. Don't mind if we shorten them a little anyway. Mounting and plumbing the EWP will take a bit of doing. Once it is all done we will run the cams in and then check the lash for any change. Then hopefully off to the dyno. Belt is pretty long but Neil has done what he can to keep it on. Will video it on the dyno.
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There's work involved. It's doable. at least some of the engine is put together. and the fact you've got a cam cover this time. Belts can stay on.
Hopefully the exhaust side doesn't move left more. that from what i understand in your engine bay can cause some drama. Intake is a little more easy to play with at least.
Hopefully the exhaust side doesn't move left more. that from what i understand in your engine bay can cause some drama. Intake is a little more easy to play with at least.
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Pretty much the whole motor is assembled. Sean didn't have to make any major mods to his stock exhaust to fit it so I'm relying on that as a key indicator that the positioning of the exhaust side is the same.
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Interesting picture which highlights some of the efforts that have gone into the build. See how much closer to the motor the belts will run. Minimising the extent of parts hanging off the nose of the crank to reduce crank whip and harmonic imbalances. Downside, we have to remove the CEP billet bracket and make up something quick-smart! More notes from the builder.
"After hearing of the previous issues on the 3.1ltr motor, we scrapped what we had and completely redesigned the front drive system. This required the cam gears to change as well. The whole assy is mounted on the hub that is pressed onto the crank. There is an interference of approx 0.0004" between the hub and the crank. You will need a puller to remove it. The cam and Oil pump gears are a slip fit onto the hub and are driven by 4 drive pins each.
These cannot come out as the diameter in the hub is bigger than the holes in the gears."
"After hearing of the previous issues on the 3.1ltr motor, we scrapped what we had and completely redesigned the front drive system. This required the cam gears to change as well. The whole assy is mounted on the hub that is pressed onto the crank. There is an interference of approx 0.0004" between the hub and the crank. You will need a puller to remove it. The cam and Oil pump gears are a slip fit onto the hub and are driven by 4 drive pins each.
These cannot come out as the diameter in the hub is bigger than the holes in the gears."
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Man, and the rest!! But it's a very well engineered piece.
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I like this. That's a very good idea.
I was thinking of something similar while i was having issues at the front also. If everything was just 1 piece and all onto a main hub, things would be more simple.
How's it all coming along?
I was thinking of something similar while i was having issues at the front also. If everything was just 1 piece and all onto a main hub, things would be more simple.
How's it all coming along?
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Bit of a can of worms in terms of getting a full understanding of the task at hand. Thing that we didn't think about is the different fuel rails and fixtures. My CEP billet rail also doesn't fit the 968 head so we can either adapt it or chase a stock 968 rail for the meantime. Picking where to spend time/money is the task. The turbo didn't fit with the exhaust side b/shaft cover. So we had to take that off and also grind down the CEP turbo mount. Even then it's tight with the new rear housing!