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Tom M'Guinn 02-27-2011 12:28 PM

By the way, just in case not obvious -- be sure to cover up that port and the whole deck (and any open hoses, ports, etc. that shavings can get into) if you need to drill. You can wrap the old gasket in saran wrap, poke hole for the studs, and clip away the area where to you working, to make a nice cover for the motor.

DDP 02-27-2011 12:46 PM

Another note of caution, that coolant tab can break off the block. And welding that on is no easy task. If it's not coming out, don't fight it. Give in and drill/helicoil. Good luck.

Bri Bro 02-27-2011 03:21 PM

I really like the Trigger Start torch.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_299446-717-2...site=shopLocal

Mapp gas burns very hot and can melt aluminum. I would go with propane. If the bolt doesn't move on the first heat cycle, let it cool, spray with PB and do it again.

audisport 02-27-2011 04:25 PM

If you have to resort to drilling out if the heat and visegrips don't work, I'd suggest reverse (left handed) drill bits from snap-on. They drill in the direction of bolt removal and you could end up pulling the bolt out while drilling. At least in my past use and experience. I haven't done this job yet.

ehall 02-27-2011 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Brian Broderick (Post 8337749)
I really like the Trigger Start torch.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_299446-717-2...site=shopLocal

Mapp gas burns very hot and can melt aluminum. I would go with propane. If the bolt doesn't move on the first heat cycle, let it cool, spray with PB and do it again.

This is what I did.I'm going to do a few more cycles like this. I even used the same torch kit. So far, NADA!

ehall 02-27-2011 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by audisport (Post 8337916)
If you have to resort to drilling out if the heat and visegrips don't work, I'd suggest reverse (left handed) drill bits from snap-on. They drill in the direction of bolt removal and you could end up pulling the bolt out while drilling. At least in my past use and experience. I haven't done this job yet.

Unfortunately I don't have the luxury of time. I'm going to have to find what I need at Autozone.

MM951 02-27-2011 06:09 PM

I struggled for months with this - even brought the block to machine shops and nobody could remove it or wanted to try. One guy said we could use a "EDM" process but it would have been super expensive.

So after talking with some people, I decided to not worry about it and just put the car together. 64K+ miles and no issues. FWIW, later cars (2.7/3L ?) did not use a bolt there.

ehall 02-27-2011 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by MM951 (Post 8338156)
I struggled for months with this - even brought the block to machine shops and nobody could remove it or wanted to try. One guy said we could use a "EDM" process but it would have been super expensive.

So after talking with some people, I decided to not worry about it and just put the car together. 64K+ miles and no issues. FWIW, later cars (2.7/3L ?) did not use a bolt there.

Did you use a gasket sealant in that spot?

Thanks,

E

MM951 02-27-2011 07:44 PM

Nope, no sealant on the gasket or the mating surfaces. My stud was also broken off below the surface of the block, so I'd imagine if it were prone to leakage I would have had a problem..

Van 02-27-2011 10:26 PM

That's an excellent candidate for the welding technique - it'll be out in about 60 seconds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T0qegbNlnY

ehall 02-27-2011 11:43 PM

Van, If I had a welder and the facilities, I'd use that. BTW, I made my crank seal installation tool out of a piece of PVC pipe. tomorrow I'm picking up a big ass washer (that's a tech term! :) )so that I can do the reinstall. The vid was great on that. Thanks!

JohnKoaWood 02-27-2011 11:47 PM

What about the broken bolt? Still f'n with it?

ehall 02-27-2011 11:51 PM

Heat , pb blaster,cool down, twist, rinse repeat...FIVE FU$*ING TIMES! nuthin!
Gonna drill tomorrow. Got a reverse bit set and an M8 x 1.25 helicoil kit.. Based on what MM said, I may freaking leave it, but that's a very last resort. The block isn't coming outta the damned car!

xupkid2 02-27-2011 11:54 PM

Try twisting it out while its hot. Once it cools down it binds back up. I had the same thing happen, heated it up and was able to get it out.

ehall 02-28-2011 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by xupkid2 (Post 8339102)
Try twisting it out while its hot. Once it cools down it binds back up. I had the same thing happen, heated it up and was able to get it out.

Yep! Did that! NADA. The metal of the bolt just crushes. It doesn't turn at all.


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