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Project Deutsch Nine GT1
Hi Gents
This one has been a long time coming but as we are now moving forwards at a rapid rate of knots I thought it was about time we compiled a dedicated thread about the project which will start right from the beginning and take us to race day :) You may have seen a few pictures posted here and there in various threads but to date nothing we have composed really details anything about what we are developing and ultimately the end purpose of the project. So let’s begin ... This particular project car actually started out life as my DD which spans back to 2004 when I purchased it from a wreckers/salvage auction in the UK. After about 2 months of work I had the car back on the road: Below As purchased all those years ago: http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-01.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-02.jpg Below Into the bodyshop to be pulled and painted: http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-03.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-04.jpg Below After a full service my 952 was on the road and I enjoyed many miles in the car driving over 800 miles a week for a period of 6-8 months without any complications :): http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-05.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-06.jpg This very car brought me to Rennlist in my quest to find out more about the 951/2 but it was by no means my first P-car as I’d owned a 964 RS and a 993 C2 one at the same time and the 964 RS was a previous purchase, but all started out life as light salvage wreckers which has been a hobby of mine rights back to the age of 17 when I was an avid TVR owner and enthusiast. This very car formed the very basis of Deutsch Nine’s infancy when together with an engineering friend I developed the Dual GTS headlight kit. The car as the pics above, show at the time that it really was a minter despite its salvage title history and it was evident that the previous owner had really cherished the car and was a keen member and regular attendee of the Porsche Club Great Britain (PCGB) but it’s cleanliness was not to last for long as it became the platform for the very first few D9 products. The second product I manufactured was the 968 Turbo RS Aero Windscreen Deflector for the 944 and it was at this moment when I received my first PM here from Beni. Beni purchased the very first Windscreen Deflector and shortly after this, our correspondence moved forward and a few weeks later I was on a plane to meet Beni in person over in his home country of Switzerland – and so became Deutsch Nine International GmbH :) Well the above car was used by myself for many further project development and Beni used his own 951 for the same purpose (and still does to this day). To cut a long story short I moved locations in the UK from Colchester to Wilmslow near to Manchester and placed the car into storage where it remained in a sorry state for about 2 .5 years. The storage bills were quickly mounting up at £60 per month and it really was dead money down the drain and I knew that if I transported the car to Wilmslow this was going to cost an additional £450.00 and I had a new 996 TT project so offered the car to Beni for free as it was becoming a headache to me, I had no storage space for it nor the time to put it back on the road. Beni at the time was looking for another 951 which had to have a solid shell, be straight and cheap for the basis of his own race car and what was to become Project Deutsch Nine GT1. Beni took up my offer not knowing the current state of the car with all the moulds I’d already pulled of it and agreed to fly over to the UK to meet me and the car. I will not forget the day we both arrived at the car storage units and the doors were rolled back and Beni got his first glimpse of his new car ... Let’s just say he looked far from impressed as a thick layer of FRP dust lay over the car and there were parts piled both on top of the car and inside the interior – I chuckled to myself ... “what do you expect for free” :) Anyway moving on Beni was in the UK with myself for 4 days and in this time we had to completely strip out the car, remove panel work ready for Dave Woods to fabricate the custom roll cage which Beni had specified and with the help of Dave’s 30 years of cage building and panel work experience. The brief was to create a cage which would provide maximum rigidity for the car with no compromises, be as light as possible and ultimately be FIA spec. As Beni had already decided that the car would need to be widebodied he ordered a front bumper and front fenders from HansB which had already arrived a few days before we started to tear down the car. These panels were to serve only 1 purope and that was as a measurement guide as we were fabricating the rear fender in steel to ensure that when we pull the moulds for replication - both sides would be 100% symetrical. Below A few pics from the time Beni and myself worked on the car whilst still in Colchester, UK at Dave Woods workshop (all will become apparent later in this thread :)): http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-07.jpg ^Front fender mounted ready to take measurements for the rear fender widths. Below A few pics of the tear down: http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-08.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-09.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-10.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-11.jpg Below Beni being measured up for the roll cage: http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-12.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-13.jpg ^ Rear trunk floor cut out - again we will cover why later :) http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-19.jpg ^ A top view profile of one of the rear fenders after being seriously extended :) In a few moments in the next post I'll be detailing the roll cage when the car arrived back to our work shop. Best regards, Mark and Beni :thumbup: |
As soon as the car arrived back at our factory in Switzerland we were simply far too busy to be able to commit much time to the project so for its first 3 months in its new country of residence, the project was pushed to the back of our workshop and I must admit, I thought I’d see it there for a long time to come.
After the cars initial idol period of activity, Beni started to prep the new cage as the first signs of surface rust were beginning to appear: Below Showing the cage running through the fire wall and picking up with the front turrets: http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-20.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-21.jpg ^ A box section was fabricated to ensure that the front and diagonal bracing would be as rigid as possible rather than just welding the tube directly to the turret. http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-22.jpg ^ Here we can see how the twin turret diagonals meet the cabin post-firewall bar. Below A few pics from the inside: http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-23.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-24.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-25.jpg More to follow very shortly :) |
As with most project in life ... work starts from the front and works backwards :) so with no exception to the rule Beni started to plan the front bumper design with the following key factors :
1. Allow maximum airflow to the twin MOCAL oil coolers (the engine we will get to later in this thread), and allow the air to expel limiting drag from the front twin apertures via side extraction vents. 2. Look astatically pleasing which for obvious reasons is important. 3. The splitter function – but again this will be cover in detail later along with the cars flat plated underside. 4. Lots more to come and be discussed later :thumbsup: Below Work began initially using the FRP widebody bumper which was purchased before we start with the measurements after receiving the 2 MOCAL oil coolers: http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-26.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-27.jpg ^ These were the very early stages of planning. Now transferring the design over to the OEM front bumper using the above as a simple template: http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-28.jpg ^ Ensuring perfect symmetry is key - Far from finished but we hope you will start to get the idea of where we are going but a long way to go yet. Below A few more angles: http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-29.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-30.jpg ^ Shortly to be added at the sides of the front bumper we will be incorporating the exit vents for the oil coolers hot side. The oil coolers will be completely isolated and boxed in so cold air goes in via the front and hot out of the side creating as little drag as possible (like a tunnel). We will ensure that as fast as the air goes in it will come out slower because the exit vent will be bigger than the intake. Also incorporated with the oil cooler extraction vents will be the adjustable side canards – again updates to follow as the project develops. Leaving the front for now I'll next post progress on the front wings :thumbsup: |
Moving on to the front fenders and the very early development stages:
http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-32.jpg ^The car at this stage is blocked up at the physical height we are aiming for :thumbsup: |
With everything FAR from finished at the front we move further down the side (again these are very early development pics and do not refelect the finished plans):
http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-33.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-34.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-35.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-36.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-37.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-38.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-39.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-40.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-41.jpg |
Thread Subscribed!! ;)
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Thread Subscribed!! Please note the initial side skirts (far from finished - what you see is just for measurements) are up for a lot of discussion with me and Beni, but the front fenders really are starting to looking the ticket :) |
that looks awesome Mark, you and Beni have been busy. love the front bar.
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that looks awesome Mark, you and Beni have been busy. love the front bar. More Beni than me as at the moment mate I;ve got the **** end of the stick to deal with = IT issues :( Our plans are to make the front bumper so that it is adaptable for both wide body and stock width :) |
Talented dudes :thumbup:
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I'm lucky enough to have seen most of those photos a fews months back there will difinatly be a barrage of emails for advice on body work jobs when i get to that stage .
are you doing anything with the mater cylender ? I'm thinking balance bar with one master above the other some guys in the hybrid forum did it but i"m thinking of using a hydraulic booster with it .. the other idea i toyed with is 2 masters mounted vertical just in front of the windscreen ..any how if you like the idea of hydraulically boosted balance masters one above the other let me know and i will look at laser cutting the stuff instead just hand cutting it .. from the rumors i here you will need the room in there :rockon: |
I wish I had a little of your talent! Looks stellar!
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Talented dudes I'm lucky enough to have seen most of those photos a fews months back there will difinatly be a barrage of emails for advice on body work jobs when i get to that stage . are you doing anything with the mater cylender ? I'm thinking balance bar with one master above the other some guys in the hybrid forum did it but i"m thinking of using a hydraulic booster with it .. the other idea i toyed with is 2 masters mounted vertical just in front of the windscreen ..any how if you like the idea of hydraulically boosted balance masters one above the other let me know and i will look at laser cutting the stuff instead just hand cutting it .. from the rumors i here you will need the room in there Regards the master cylinder - a balance bar is a great idea especially with 2 masters one above the other. We will have to chat later down the line :) What are you doing about your pedal box - independent floor mount got to be the way to go? Yep from the rumours I think Beni has 800+ bhp in mind for this one and possibly more so no the engine will not be a stock 4-pot. Cheers, mark |
I wish I had a little of your talent! Looks stellar! |
The hood will also be formed an integral part of the efficiency of the design.
Working on the basis of "air in must have more air out efficiency", we have looked at our current heat extraction vents and ways to develop the benefits further. To start with we have mounted a set of our replicated 968 TRS NACA ducts to force are into the engine bay and to extract we are using our re-engineered Aero Windscreen Deflector to work as a heat extraction unit on a mass scale. How it works - Effectively the profile lip of the Deflector acts as a fantastic "air puller", so we removed the 'engine firewall seal', open up back and underside of the hood so now air can escape freely and directly from the rear of the hood or in other words the Aero Deflector now acts as a huge heat extraction vent which is force feed by the NACA ducts (The underside of the hood will be developed next but I hope you understand the mythology): http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-42.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-43.jpg http://www.future.co.uk/rennlist/d9-...951-gt1-45.jpg |
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