951s LS1?
04-12-2009, 01:40 AM
#211
Rennlist Junkie Forever
WSIR and Buttonwillow are in the desert.
www.willowspringsraceway.com
www.buttonwillowraceway.com
or we could do California Speedway (Roval).
Otherwise, you pay for the private track day and we'll come to you. Reverse deal.
TonyG
www.willowspringsraceway.com
www.buttonwillowraceway.com
or we could do California Speedway (Roval).
Otherwise, you pay for the private track day and we'll come to you. Reverse deal.
TonyG
04-12-2009, 01:41 AM
#212
Rennlist Member
Arizona.
04-12-2009, 01:44 AM
#213
Rennlist Junkie Forever
04-12-2009, 01:45 AM
#214
Rennlist Member
04-12-2009, 01:51 AM
#215
Rennlist Member
04-12-2009, 01:54 AM
#216
Rennlist Junkie Forever
04-12-2009, 01:56 AM
#217
Rennlist Member
Im free whenever. Should be all tuned in a few weeks.
04-12-2009, 02:03 AM
#219
Rennlist Junkie Forever
Let me know when it's tuned and ready.
Oh... and just to clarify... if you "bring your driver", since you're not going to be driving yourself.... he can't be a pro driver.
Other than that schedule away. But like I said I need a few date/date ranges to pick from as I've got several races scheduled over the next few months.
Let me know.
TonyG
04-12-2009, 02:08 AM
#220
Rennlist Member
Let me know when it's tuned and ready.
Oh... and just to clarify... if you "bring your driver", since you're not going to be driving yourself.... he can't be a pro driver.
Other than that schedule away. But like I said I need a few date/date ranges to pick from as I've got several races scheduled over the next few months.
Let me know.
TonyG
04-12-2009, 02:15 AM
#221
Race Car
The one thing that is continuosly repeated here is the reliability of the SB Chevy.
How many people here have driven one with 70k-100k miles on it, regularly? How many have owned a Chevy LS motor before? Just curious.....
I am not implying that they do not last, but from my personal experience, these motors seem to wear out significantly (maybe 20%-30%?) on the performance side as they increase in mileage...not a good ratio IMO. Try this:
Find a dealer that has a low mile Vette, then find one with a high mile Vette. Test drive both.....the difference should be extremely noticeable. So much, that you might think a bit more about why these motors get so worn out/tired and/or have a much more abbreviated performance life span than the 2.5l.
Inversely, I have driven a 22k mile 951, own a 60k mile 951 and have driven a few 100k mile plus 951's....and they were all relatively the same.
Just something to think about, not trying to start an entirely different arguement....and yes, this is from experience NOT speculation.
How many people here have driven one with 70k-100k miles on it, regularly? How many have owned a Chevy LS motor before? Just curious.....
I am not implying that they do not last, but from my personal experience, these motors seem to wear out significantly (maybe 20%-30%?) on the performance side as they increase in mileage...not a good ratio IMO. Try this:
Find a dealer that has a low mile Vette, then find one with a high mile Vette. Test drive both.....the difference should be extremely noticeable. So much, that you might think a bit more about why these motors get so worn out/tired and/or have a much more abbreviated performance life span than the 2.5l.
Inversely, I have driven a 22k mile 951, own a 60k mile 951 and have driven a few 100k mile plus 951's....and they were all relatively the same.
Just something to think about, not trying to start an entirely different arguement....and yes, this is from experience NOT speculation.
in regard to the longevity of SBC's I have ran them for years and they will hold up very well ..even before the LS. I had and 87 Vette with over 195k on it and the last 30k was on nitrous quite a bit. My last chevy gas tow vehicle had over 275k on it when hit by a DD.
As for the banter..... I hope to see the race happen I'll throw a bill in to see it and I have a good friend out there so I'd fly out on that weekend
Tone's "tone" is a little out of line reading the whole thread IMO. I thought most of the LS guys were pretty cordial and helpful reading back.
04-12-2009, 02:27 AM
#222
Rennlist Member
Patrick,
in regard to the longevity of SBC's I have ran them for years and they will hold up very well ..even before the LS. I had and 87 Vette with over 195k on it and the last 30k was on nitrous quite a bit. My last chevy gas tow vehicle had over 275k on it when hit by a DD.
As for the banter..... I hope to see the race happen I'll throw a bill in to see it and I have a good friend out there so I'd fly out on that weekend
Tone's "tone" is a little out of line reading the whole thread IMO. I thought most of the LS guys were pretty cordial and helpful reading back.
in regard to the longevity of SBC's I have ran them for years and they will hold up very well ..even before the LS. I had and 87 Vette with over 195k on it and the last 30k was on nitrous quite a bit. My last chevy gas tow vehicle had over 275k on it when hit by a DD.
As for the banter..... I hope to see the race happen I'll throw a bill in to see it and I have a good friend out there so I'd fly out on that weekend
Tone's "tone" is a little out of line reading the whole thread IMO. I thought most of the LS guys were pretty cordial and helpful reading back.
Aint like rennlist has really been much for me but one argument to the next, and a headache, and beat up, poorly built "well sorted rennlist cars". I guess im "abrasive" LOL. Boo hoo. At least vette guys arent touchy, and sensitive. hahaha.
04-12-2009, 02:32 AM
#224
Rennlist Junkie Forever
04-12-2009, 02:33 AM
#225
Race Director
Sid,
Understood.
In my experience the LS motors (98 Vette, 02 Vette) were great in the lower mileage (0-70k/80k) then seemed to just gradually fall off as the mileage increased. By the time the 98 hit 100k, it felt like a boat anchor....comparatively speaking (to comparable lower mileage LS's), and the same in the '02, although perhaps not as bad. These were straight stock LS1 (both) and were dealer maintained religiously....and driven hard. They still ran fine, just seemed to have what I would term a significant drop in power over the years/mileage.
Maybe it is my driving style that wears them out so quick......for some reason stoplights remind me of track trees.....
Understood.
In my experience the LS motors (98 Vette, 02 Vette) were great in the lower mileage (0-70k/80k) then seemed to just gradually fall off as the mileage increased. By the time the 98 hit 100k, it felt like a boat anchor....comparatively speaking (to comparable lower mileage LS's), and the same in the '02, although perhaps not as bad. These were straight stock LS1 (both) and were dealer maintained religiously....and driven hard. They still ran fine, just seemed to have what I would term a significant drop in power over the years/mileage.
Maybe it is my driving style that wears them out so quick......for some reason stoplights remind me of track trees.....